Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign.
[00:00:09] Speaker B: The podcast for those who find themselves immersed in adversity and choose to write their story instead of having others write it for them. I'm Drew Duraney and I'm your host. Today's guest is Bob Hayek. In Bob's words. I have been a financial advisor since 1993 and now own Financial Independence LLC.
We help individuals and business owners become debt free.
In 2020, I found a biotech company with a product that changed my health.
Enjoy the show. Bob Hayek. It's been a while, my friend. How are you?
[00:00:46] Speaker A: I'm great, Drew. How you been?
[00:00:48] Speaker B: I'm doing well, my friend. So I always start this out by thanking the person who introduced me to my guest, because if that person didn't do it, we never would have met and we wouldn't be here right now. So this is a reach from 2020.
There used to be a networking group called One BC Networking Group. A gentleman named Greg Petrie or Petrie. So, Greg, even though we haven't spoken in five years, my friend, I want to thank you for hosting that that event because I got to meet Bob Hayek on it. So thank you, sir.
So I always talk about how when we're young, we're taught something. And it's not a malicious teaching, but we're talk taught from our family and friends and the environment that life is linear. It's a straight line. If you do A plus, B plus C D is going to happen. And for the most part, life is linear until it's not.
At some point in our life, some external circumstance comes down called adversity and gets in between one of those letters and derails our strength straight path in life to a more circuitous route.
When that happens, that adversity causes us to do something or maybe not do something, because I believe there's three types of men. We have man number one, who's got a ton of blind spots, doesn't even see that adversity just goes through life the way people told him. He doesn't make any changes. I don't have man number one on this show. Then there's man number two. Man number two sees the adversity, yet he says, I'm the victim. Everybody's to blame. Life's doing this to me. It is what it is. I can't change anything. And he doesn't change anything yet on his deathbed, boy, does he have a ton of regrets. Well, I don't bring man number two on the show either. I bring man number three on the show. I bring Bob Hayek on man number three sees the adversity. He's got a heightened self awareness, yet he says, I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired. He says, this adversity is not a barrier. It's an opportunity to do something different. Take massive action and become a stronger man on the other side.
So with that, Bob, if you could, that defining moment, think back as far as you need to for that defining moment. Whether it was a tap on the shoulder, a whisper in the ear, or like what I needed two by four upside my head. That kind of transformed you from the man you used to be to the man you are now and has really impacted you personally and professionally.
[00:03:09] Speaker A: Well, it's around this time my dad was in the VA hospital in East Orange, New Jersey, and he came down with staph infection.
And at that point, nobody would go into his room. Even the barber wouldn't go in. I went out and I bought a, a kit to give him a haircut because Christmas was coming and I didn't want him to look like a slob.
So Christmas Eve, I went in there and I, you know, cut his hair for him. He had bald spots all over his head and he would laugh. Now he couldn't talk for the last 15 years of his life. He couldn't walk, talk, or eat. I mean, he just laid there and looked at the ceiling.
But I knew what he was trying to say and, you know, we communicated some way through that. And that night, for whatever reason, I don't know what possessed me to do it, but I sat on his bed and I basically just said to him, look, dad, you don't need to be here anymore.
I'm okay.
I know what I need to do and I'm going to do it.
And that was Christmas Eve. Two days later, he passed. Wow.
And I thought I was prepared for it, but I wasn't.
I wasn't at all.
And I ended up having a nervous breakdown.
Spent a week in a hospital. I just, you know, I lost it. I just lost it.
[00:04:52] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:04:55] Speaker A: But one day in my yard, I realized something.
Because my whole upbringing, I was, I was the black sheep. I, I, I, I was one of six kids. I fought everything.
I didn't, I didn't grow. I didn't go with the flow.
And that one morning I woke up, I was outside cutting my grass. And I don't know what happened, but I just started laughing hysterically, so, so loud that my wife came out of the house because she heard me over the lawnmower.
She's like, what's. What's going on? I said, I just realized something. She's like, what? I said, I own this lawnmower.
I own this house.
And I realized that I was the one that did that, and I was okay.
And it was really strange because people that knew me, some of them walked right by me, didn't even realize it was me. My own mother walked past me, didn't realize it was me, because I changed.
[00:06:13] Speaker B: Wow.
[00:06:14] Speaker A: And that was probably the beginning of why my wife and I divorced, because when we met, we. We needed each other. And at that point, I realized, I don't need.
I'm okay.
And that was probably the defining moment where I just decided that, no, nothing's going to stay the same, and I'm going forward.
And I did.
[00:06:37] Speaker B: Wow. There's a lot. There's a lot there.
Seems as if dad hung on for you.
He wanted to be there until he knew you were going to be okay.
He.
[00:06:50] Speaker A: I mean, he was. He was.
He didn't say much, but I got a lot out of it, you know? I mean, the nurses there at the hospital always said that he was probably the happiest guy they ever met.
[00:07:03] Speaker B: Oh, wow.
[00:07:04] Speaker A: Every time he. They'd walk in the room, he'd have a smile on his face.
Man. The only thing he heard was the white noise on the TV and looked at the ceiling.
But he was aware. I mean, he was fully aware. I mean, I'll give you a really spooky one. And this happened multiple times, that he was always in a room with multiple people because he couldn't talk.
[00:07:29] Speaker B: Right.
[00:07:30] Speaker A: So if something happened, you know, he needed to have somebody there that could say.
But he. We would be having a conversation, and he'd start blinking his eyes and looking over, and the guy next to him just passed away.
And he knew it.
[00:07:45] Speaker B: Oh, boy.
[00:07:46] Speaker A: And that happened multiple times.
Wow. So he. He always knew, you know, and he always told me when. When he did. Was able to speak. He always said, you know, whatever you want to do, you can do as long as you put your mind to it. Mm.
And, you know, I've. I've achieved some things, you know, that I wanted to achieve and some things I haven't. But, you know, that's life. Like, I said that. That straight line isn't really straight.
[00:08:16] Speaker B: No. No, it's not. Well, Guy, you know, your father gave you the. The gift of being. Being there for you. And, you know, you. You thought you were ready. Like we said, we. We're never ready, whether they believe so or not. So when dad was gone, the whole lawnmower thing is pretty powerful to me because a lot of times we go through life on autopilot and we collect things. The home, the lawnmower, the accessories for cutting the lawn, all this kind of stuff. And we don't stop and think that it's. We've been successful. Successful in moving forward in life and even obtaining certain things. Not the actual material possession, but the act of being able to do it and choosing to do it. That's pretty powerful. And we don't acknowledge that of ourselves very often. So the fact that you had that wherewithal while you're mowing that lawn to say, I did this and I can do more, I give you. Give you a lot of credit. And I think it's ironic that that's then what set off the divorce happening.
And that usually happens, Bob, when one person in the partnership works on personal development and the other has stayed stand pat.
[00:09:32] Speaker A: Yeah, no, you're absolutely right. Absolutely right.
[00:09:36] Speaker B: Yeah.
So after your divorce, what was the next thing that you did for yourself that you're. That you set you, you know, on a path to where you are now?
[00:09:49] Speaker A: Well, there was. There was another hiccup as I was getting divorced. I bumped into a high school friend.
[00:09:59] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:10:02] Speaker A: Who was living in Florida. I was in New Jersey. I was living with my sister.
[00:10:07] Speaker B: Right.
[00:10:08] Speaker A: And, you know, we started talking on Facebook and whatever, and I didn't even realize it. She goes, you don't remember me? I'm like, nah, I don't remember you.
[00:10:17] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:10:18] Speaker A: She goes, bob, we had classes together.
I'm like, oh, geez, here we go.
But we. We got to become, you know, you know, we were having a conversations, and she was in Florida. I started going down to Florida, and divorce was getting almost finalized, and she wanted. Her son was getting married, and she was thinking about coming to New Jersey, and I was wanting to get out of my sister's house. So I said to her, you know, why don't we. You know, we'll get an apartment together and live together here in Jersey. I'll come down and get you.
So I did.
[00:10:53] Speaker B: Wow.
[00:10:54] Speaker A: And we were living in Carteret. We were there for about six months, and one Monday night, she basically passed away in my arms.
[00:11:04] Speaker B: Oh, my goodness.
[00:11:06] Speaker A: And it really threw me for a loop because here I go again.
I got married to somebody I thought who loved me.
[00:11:15] Speaker B: Right.
[00:11:15] Speaker A: Didn't really, you know, it was just convenient.
[00:11:20] Speaker B: Right.
[00:11:20] Speaker A: And now somebody who I really, really cared for and really grown fond of just. Just leaves me. Where am I Where? What do I do?
[00:11:31] Speaker B: Wow.
[00:11:32] Speaker A: And I went and I saw help. And the therapist, like, you got to go out and date. You got to go out and do meet people. I'm like.
And I tried it. I really did. I tried it, and it just wasn't working.
And I. I almost got to the point where just again, cashing out and saying, I'm done. Yeah.
And I met Vivian.
[00:11:58] Speaker B: I love this story.
I love the Vivian story. And I do remember you telling me about the.
[00:12:04] Speaker A: The.
[00:12:04] Speaker B: In the incident, about.
[00:12:05] Speaker A: I was there. I was closing out every one of my dating apps I could find.
[00:12:11] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:12:12] Speaker A: And the last one, I said, oh, let me just go through this one more time. And I came across her picture, her standing next to a plane.
And I'm like, oh, she's got a plane. She lives in Carteret or in Garwood.
[00:12:26] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:12:26] Speaker A: I'm like, she's close.
So, you know, we talked. We talked, we talked. And I said to her, look, you know, you don't know me. I don't know you.
The way I do this is we'll get together for 10, 15 minutes, have a cup of coffee. You go your way, I go my way, and if we want to talk again, we contact each other.
I said, so why don't you do this? Pick a place that you're comfortable being at, and I'll meet you there she goes, okay, how about the Holiday Inn Garwood? And I didn't even think about it because I used to use the Holiday Inn all the time to make phone calls. There's a real nice meeting area in the middle.
[00:13:05] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:13:06] Speaker A: So, you know, she's thinking, as soon as she said it, she's like, oh, my God. I'm telling this guy to meet me at a hotel.
But I understood the area and whatever, right? So I met her there. We sat.
Next thing we know, it was three hours later.
[00:13:22] Speaker B: Oh, wow. There's your 10 to 15 minutes. All right.
[00:13:25] Speaker A: Yeah. And she went her way, and I went my way. And it was just.
It was the strangest thing, because it was like, I already know her.
You know, she. We. Everything. I. And she listened.
[00:13:40] Speaker B: Yeah, isn't that nice?
[00:13:42] Speaker A: And she. And she said. I told her my whole life story. I said, well, if you're willing to listen to me babble, I guess we got something there.
And it was weird, though, when I met her boys and her daughter.
[00:13:56] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:13:57] Speaker A: They also said, why do. Why do we feel like we know them?
Well, the reason probably is, is because I lived in Cranford, they lived in Garwood. We probably crossed Paths in the grocery store, at the. At the groomers. Because we use the same groomer, the same laundry. Yeah. So we probably won by each other.
[00:14:19] Speaker B: Right.
[00:14:20] Speaker A: But never communicated anything.
[00:14:23] Speaker B: Sure.
[00:14:24] Speaker A: But she saved my life. I mean, unbelievable.
And she's been a stone. Because what I went through with my kids was. Was devastating.
Devastating.
[00:14:42] Speaker B: There's a few things. Yes. I remember that. The. We'll get to what happened with your kids. I know. That was devastating. I hear you, pal. The. The plane turned out not to be.
[00:14:52] Speaker A: Well, yeah. A couple weeks after that. Yeah. After meeting her, I finally said, so when are we going to go up in the plane?
And she's like, what plane?
The plane that you're standing in the picture.
She goes. It starts laughing. She goes, oh, that wasn't my plane. That was another Bob.
I. I dated. I said, well, how many Bobs have you dated?
He goes, well, you'll be B5.
I said, no, I won't be B5. I'll be B1, and everybody will be B4.
[00:15:26] Speaker B: Yeah.
I love that before. I love that Bob. That's a funny story, because if. If the plane. If the plane wasn't in the picture, that. Would that have caught your eye, or did Vivian catch your eye?
[00:15:39] Speaker A: Oh, Vivian definitely caught my eye.
[00:15:41] Speaker B: All right. Good. Good. And that was the right answer.
All right, so let's get to. I know. Tell us a little about what happened with your kids, Bob, because that. For you to.
[00:15:50] Speaker A: Well, Fiona, when she had passed away March 22, 2015, they came to the.
To the service and everything. And that night, they came back to my apartment, my kids. And I wasn't in the right mind. I was just. I was. You know, and my daughter at the time was married to Jules, whose family were all wrapped around the Neptune police department.
[00:16:23] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:16:25] Speaker A: And what they said, I said, which I don't. To this day, I don't.
Oh, I. I don't know exactly how it went, but I can guess.
Jules asked me, so what happened?
And I explained, you know, she came home from work. We were. We had dinner, unfortunately, the night before, we had a little bit of a, you know, back and forth because of my son, and, you know, we didn't go to bed on good terms, and she left that morning for work. Came home, dinner. We still haven't really talked, and we. She. She sat on the couch. She asked me if I could make her some tea. I got up. I made her tea.
He was drinking tea. We were watching the voice, I think it was. Or something.
[00:17:13] Speaker B: Mm.
[00:17:15] Speaker A: And I think what he said to me probably said to me, was, what did you put in it?
So I answered it as stupidly as he asked. I put arsenic.
[00:17:26] Speaker B: Oh, no.
[00:17:27] Speaker A: What do you think I said? What do you. What do you mean, what did I put in it?
Well, a couple other things were said that night. I don't remember exactly.
They left. That was March 22nd.
[00:17:41] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:17:41] Speaker A: Okay.
Father's Day is June. What?
[00:17:46] Speaker B: 15Th, 16th, whatever that Sunday is, right?
[00:17:48] Speaker A: I'm out with my son looking at apartments, and as we're walking out of the apartment, he says to me, dad, I gotta ask you a question. To kill Fiona.
[00:18:00] Speaker B: Oh, my God.
[00:18:02] Speaker A: I'm like, what?
Well, you know, you said you put arsenic in her drink and she didn't have a.
You cremated her. You're an insurance agent. Did you do it for the insurance money?
I'm like, bob, what in the world is wrong with you?
[00:18:20] Speaker B: Holy Jesus.
[00:18:21] Speaker A: And he. And at one point, I, I almost hit him.
[00:18:26] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:18:27] Speaker A: And I was screaming.
I'm like, you're out of your mind. You're absolutely. I'm not.
And it didn't dawn on me until a couple days later that, that my wife.
Ex. Ex wife. Let my kids believe that I could do something like that.
And they festered on it from March 22nd till June, whatever, before they even questioned me. They didn't think to pick up the phone the next day and say, hey, dad, what were you talking about? What did you do? Why did you say what you said last night?
Oh, nothing, nothing.
I mean, and I'm, I, I, it, it hurts because it'll never go away. You know that. You can't take that back.
I have a relationship with my daughter. I'm starting to.
[00:19:22] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:19:22] Speaker A: I mean, she has had, you know, she had a baby and the baby's walking. Today was the first time I saw her walk. And she's pregnant again, so I'm able to have a conversation and this and that.
My son still, he's not right. There's something off.
[00:19:44] Speaker B: That's a shame. I'm sorry about that. But like you said, Vivian has been a rock for you. And thank God she's in the picture with, with, with everything going on. I know that professionally you have a. But had a bunch of different things cooking. And when you and I met in 2020, you had mentioned Asea. Well, you wanted to talk a little about. Actually, let's talk about Asea. After you tell us about how you. I know you're also in the financial industry.
[00:20:17] Speaker A: Well, I've been in the financial industry since 1993.
[00:20:20] Speaker B: Okay. All right. And was that always, always your passion at that time is to go into the. That. That industry?
[00:20:27] Speaker A: No.
[00:20:28] Speaker B: What was your passion?
[00:20:29] Speaker A: Because my passion was. I was a musician.
[00:20:32] Speaker B: I was gonna get there good.
[00:20:33] Speaker A: Yeah. I want. I wanted a drum for the rest of my life, but that didn't. You know, you.
You talk about the straight line.
[00:20:42] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:20:43] Speaker A: You talk about things. If you. If you look back in your life, there's things that happen, and they happen for a reason.
[00:20:53] Speaker B: Right.
[00:20:54] Speaker A: We don't know why. Right. They're just there. And based on what happens will determine which way you go.
[00:21:03] Speaker B: Right.
[00:21:04] Speaker A: And back in the day, I was playing with a band called the Davis James Band.
[00:21:09] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:21:09] Speaker A: We featured Leslie west from Mountain. We would do shows, and I was the youngest one in the band, and probably, you know, now that I really think about it, probably the most talented one in the band, other than Davis, who wrote the material.
[00:21:28] Speaker B: Right.
[00:21:30] Speaker A: But I never had the confidence at that time in my ability.
[00:21:36] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:21:36] Speaker A: Which is where what happened was Leslie got married.
We were all invited to the wedding.
Me, I said to Dave, is everybody going to the wedding? No, we're not going. You're not going, are you? I'm like, well, if they're not going, I'm not going.
[00:21:52] Speaker B: Oh, wow.
[00:21:53] Speaker A: I didn't go.
I think they all went, oh, boy.
And Dave, I've met. I've seen Dave since, and, you know, he's apologized to me a couple times for things.
One being that they had another tour that they did, and Leslie actually asked for me, and he told him he didn't know where I was.
[00:22:17] Speaker B: Oh, boy.
[00:22:18] Speaker A: And he knew where I was, so. And, you know, but I didn't go. But if I probably went, I'd probably still be in music.
[00:22:31] Speaker B: Amazing how things happen, huh?
[00:22:33] Speaker A: Right? Because there was talent there. There was the ability to talk to somebody and. And maybe do something different with a different band or whatever. But I didn't, you know, and that's just the way it is.
[00:22:50] Speaker B: That's the way it is. It happens.
So after the. The music career, and I know you, I think you showed me if once you have. You had long hair.
[00:22:59] Speaker A: I had hair once.
[00:23:00] Speaker B: You had hair once. I love it. I love that picture. You showed me that picture once.
So after the music did, then. Did you. How did you get into the whole financial industry?
[00:23:11] Speaker A: Well, I was.
What was I doing before I got in there? Oh, I was.
I was working at a florist.
[00:23:21] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:23:22] Speaker A: All right. And I realized I had to do something, so I got into the semiconductor industry.
[00:23:30] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:23:31] Speaker A: Because my ex.
Father was in the business, and he said, oh, you're a good salesman. You probably do well. So I interviewed a couple places, but unfortunately, I got hired and fired in the same day because I didn't realize I needed to have a driver's license, which I didn't have a driver's license at the time because I lost it.
[00:23:55] Speaker B: Oh, boy.
[00:23:57] Speaker A: But finally I got in the industry, and I was in that industry for about 10 years, and the industry of.
Of semiconductors.
[00:24:06] Speaker B: Semiconductors. Okay.
[00:24:07] Speaker A: I mean, basically everything that's in a computer. We. I saw every amd, Intel, National Semiconductor, Cygnetics, all these different companies.
And Jersey was a big area for manufacturing.
[00:24:22] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:24:23] Speaker A: Of different things that needed these parts. And I got involved, and I was the one that they always put me on the cases that they or the companies they couldn't break.
[00:24:37] Speaker B: Oh.
[00:24:39] Speaker A: And I'd break them.
[00:24:41] Speaker B: Yeah. I love it.
[00:24:42] Speaker A: I. I'd get in.
[00:24:43] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:24:44] Speaker A: I mean, I. I'll never forget, there was one company we were working with, this.
I forget the name of the. What it was called, but the purchasing agent was Mr. Lee, a Korean gentleman.
[00:24:59] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:25:00] Speaker A: And I'll never forget it.
I'm trying to break into this company. I get into the.
Into the.
Where. Where the engineers are, and I'm talking to one of the engineers about a device that they want to use but they can't afford it. It was the right one, but they can't afford it. It's too expensive.
And Mr. Lee got wind that I was in that department. He walks in, basically grabs me by the collar, walks me out the door, and says, I don't ever want to see you in here again.
[00:25:33] Speaker B: Oh.
[00:25:35] Speaker A: He goes, you came in here without my permission, you're not allowed back in.
[00:25:39] Speaker B: Wow.
[00:25:40] Speaker A: Okay.
But I had all the information I needed.
[00:25:44] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:25:45] Speaker A: To help them out.
So I went to Harris Semiconductor and I said, look, this is the situation. They want to use this part, it's either you or this other company. I forget who it was they're going to use. If you want this business, we need to figure out a way. He goes, well, how many part.
He goes, will they do a letter of intent? I said, they would do a letter of intent.
I said, if we can. If you can get them a letter of intent, we can do this pricing. And I knew the pricing would work.
[00:26:13] Speaker B: Right. Okay.
[00:26:14] Speaker A: So I go back, get back in. I tell the engineer before I go in that I got this information.
[00:26:22] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:26:23] Speaker A: So I make an appointment to see Mr. Lee, and he's like, I don't want to talk to you. I said, yeah, you do. And he said, I don't want to talk. I said, yeah, you do.
I said, Call Dr. Gupta and have him come to your office.
That was the engineer I was talking to, right? Brings him in. He says, bob's on the phone. He's telling me I need to talk. Yeah. He goes, you do need to talk to Bob. I said, Mr. Lee, I know you. What I did wasn't right. I apologize, but I have a fix for you.
I said, you need this part. They want to use this part. Pricing isn't right. I got the pricing down to be worthy of what you want to do and in the area you want it to be, all you got to do is sign a letter of intent, and you got the pricing.
That was their number one distributor for the next six and seven years.
[00:27:14] Speaker B: Wow.
[00:27:16] Speaker A: Nobody could touch what I did for them.
[00:27:18] Speaker B: That's wonderful.
[00:27:19] Speaker A: I mean, the owner.
We would go out to dinner. He'd bring me gifts. I mean, it was unbelievable.
[00:27:26] Speaker B: Mr. Lee would talk to you again.
[00:27:29] Speaker A: Mr. Lee was part of my family.
[00:27:34] Speaker B: I love that story. Oh, my gosh. All right, so let's. Let's fast forward after.
[00:27:38] Speaker A: All right? So we get out of there. Then what happened was the industry started to dissolve, okay?
And I was at a point where I got a guarantee from a company, and there were four guys, sales guys. And the amount of business we were doing wasn't enough to pay my salary.
[00:28:01] Speaker B: Oh, boy.
[00:28:01] Speaker A: So the writing was on the wall. So I went out and I started looking for other opportunities, and I. I started to look into the insurance business because of the residual aspect, right? And I went to a Prime America meeting, right? I'm an in the meeting. And the guys, you know, come talking to us and telling us about the residual. And I'm like, yeah, this is what I want, is that some guy comes in the door with this big check, and he's hooting and hollering and screaming, and I'm like, oh, wait a minute. Maybe this isn't what I want.
And I get up and I start walking to the door. The guy goes, yo, where are you going? I said, I'm leaving. He goes, you don't want to make money? I said, not that way. And I walked out the door, and I called my cousin that night, Mark. His Jane. My cousin Jane's married to Mark. His father owned an Equitable agency, okay? And I said, mark, have you ever heard of this company, Prime America? He's like, bob, what are you doing? I said, well, I went for an interview, and, you know, they were hooting and hollering. This guy comes in with this chat. He goes, bob, what are you doing Monday?
I said, what are you talking about? He goes, I want you to come meet me and my dad.
What? So they meet me. We go into New York, into the headquarters in New York.
Round table and whining and dynamy.
I go home that night. I'm like, I'm done.
I'm going to become an insurance agent. I'm telling my wife. She's still. I was nuts.
I said, I could. I could go and get all my licenses and everything while I'm working. They won't even know I'm doing it because they don't know where I am at anyway, right?
That. That night, my boss, who they brought in from Florida, says to me, I'm traveling with you tomorrow morning, Tuesday morning. I'm like, where are we going? He goes, we'll go. Wherever you're gonna go, we're gonna go. I'm like, all right, whatever, you know, the guy was a moron.
So I meet him at the.
In Edison, at the hotel in the morning, and we're having breakfast, and he says to me, why does an integrated networks. That was the company that Mr. Lee, right.
Want to do the kidding program? I said, well, they don't see a value in it.
He goes, well, you have to get them to see it.
I said, well, I can't make somebody see something they don't see.
He goes, really?
He goes, you're fired. You're out of here.
I said, excuse me.
He goes, you're terminated. You're done. If you can't convince them to see something, you're done. We don't. You're done.
Don't call the office. Don't go to the office. Geez, you're done. Okay, now we're having breakfast.
[00:30:56] Speaker B: Yeah, nice breakfast.
[00:30:58] Speaker A: He says to me, I got a question for you. It's like, what's that? Where do I get gas?
I said, a gas station. And I got up and I walked away.
I'm in. I'm in the hotel, and I go out of the.
The restaurant and I go sit at the phones because there were no pay. We had those calling cards and all at that.
And I proceeded to call every one of my clients and let them know that I was just terminated.
Well, that gave him a headache because by the time he got back to the office, his phone did not stop ringing. He got phone calls from people I never even did business with telling him, who the hell do you.
Right, yeah, well, he then tells me that whatever. I mean, he was just.
He did me a major, major favor because what he did was he forced me to do what I had to do to change career.
[00:32:06] Speaker B: Okay, guys. See, so it was a blessing.
[00:32:09] Speaker A: Yeah. So I had to get a life and health license and I had to get a Series 6 life license. Now.
[00:32:15] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:32:18] Speaker A: High school and me did not get along.
[00:32:21] Speaker B: Get along. Yeah.
[00:32:24] Speaker A: School, no. So for me to go back to learning was. Was difficult.
Well, I did my life and health in one shot. I did my series six in one shot.
[00:32:35] Speaker B: Good for you.
[00:32:38] Speaker A: But what I was told I would make, income wise. Yeah. Was not even close.
[00:32:44] Speaker B: They overestimated or. Yeah. So.
[00:32:47] Speaker A: Yeah. So I had to learn real quick on how to make money in the industry. And I hooked up with an agent inside there, and we just. He was a cfp. I made appointments. He closed them. I made them. He closed.
[00:33:04] Speaker B: Oh, I like that.
[00:33:06] Speaker A: And. And, and I learned what to do and how to do it. And, you know, I got real good at making phone calls. I get in at 9 o' clock in the morning, and I turn the lights off at nine o' clock at night every single day, six days a week.
And I worked my butt off.
Yeah.
[00:33:27] Speaker B: And where'd that bring you? I know you own your own financial.
[00:33:30] Speaker A: Well, I wanted. That brought me to a point where.
Well, in 2009, I was diagnosed with Ms.
And my. My health started to decline.
[00:33:45] Speaker B: Oh, boy.
[00:33:47] Speaker A: So when Vivian and I met, I said to her, I can't. I can't live here in New Jersey anymore. I just. The cold just kills me.
And I said, we got to go. So I. The house, she lived for almost 40 years. I forced her to sell it.
[00:34:05] Speaker B: Oh, boy.
[00:34:07] Speaker A: So she sold her house, retired at the same time, moved to Florida. She. She was cursing me all the way to Florida. And she'll tell you, she was cursing me left and right all the way to Florida.
[00:34:18] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:34:20] Speaker A: But when she got here every day she woke up, she pinched herself and go, do I really live here?
Because it's beautiful. We live in heaven here.
[00:34:29] Speaker B: Right.
[00:34:30] Speaker A: And when I got here, I bumped into a program in my industry I never ever saw before.
And I really took a liking to it because it really helps people get out of debt. Credit card debt, mortgages, student loans, medical bills, basically anything you're paying interest to, we show you how to turn it around and put it back in your bank.
[00:34:50] Speaker B: Right.
[00:34:50] Speaker A: Well, I got so excited, I opened up a company called Financial Independence llc.
And we were doing live networking events in a restaurant here in Florida, we'd have 20, 30 people showing up in that time, showing them what we do.
And everything was rock and roll, everything was good. And then Covid hit.
[00:35:09] Speaker B: Oh, boy.
[00:35:10] Speaker A: And when Covid hit it, just put the brakes on everything and forced me online. And my force. First Zoom meeting was with one bc.
[00:35:22] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:35:24] Speaker A: And I was waiting for it to start. And the guy that invited me, I was telling him I was in the Everglades fishing with my fishing guide and I had to cut my trip shorts, my shoulder locked. And there was a girl on the call, she's like, oh, I got a great product for you. It's got a 30 day money back guarantee. Warner, you said, really? Is it a network marketing company? He's like, yep. So no, thank you. Bye. Bye.
And I just blew her off. Lisa Cassetti.
And for two months, every week, she came on that call and go, how's your shoulder? And finally, when I had an MRI of my left shoulder and the orthopedic surgeon wanted to go in, I'm like, not now, wait a minute. So I called her back. I said, lisa, you seem very adamant. You have something that can help me?
And she did. She said, we have a water that you drink.
And at the time they had a gel, which was a topical, right?
So I ordered them, didn't think anything of it. I figured, let me try it, what the hell?
So I get the stuff, I call her, I said, what do I do with it? She goes, rate the pain in your shoulder from 1 to 10. Is it 10? I said, I can't get my elbow off my body.
She goes, apply the gel three times in five minutes to your shoulder.
And I started laughing. I said, what are you talking about? She goes, put it on, let it dry. Put it on, let it dry, put it on, let dry.
I started really laughing. At least I don't smell it, I don't feel it. And whatever the heck I put on my shoulder, it's gone. It disappeared. She goes, okay, just wait. I said, wait for what?
And we kept talking.
Yes, God is my witness on my father's grave. It was less than 10 minutes. I went like that. When I did that, I went, you gotta be kidding me.
[00:36:58] Speaker B: Wow, I love that.
[00:36:59] Speaker A: How is it possible I could not move my shoulder?
[00:37:02] Speaker B: Those of you listening on audio, he raised his shoulder. He had shown a bottle of Asea Redox and the gel. And Bob was able to raise his locked shoulder because of the Ms. Yeah.
[00:37:13] Speaker A: So I said, well, no, the shoulder was because it just worn out.
[00:37:17] Speaker B: I had nothing to do with Ms.
[00:37:19] Speaker A: No, no, that was just.
[00:37:20] Speaker B: Just locked up.
[00:37:21] Speaker A: That was actually. I got hit in football and everything else. Football injury, beat it up.
[00:37:27] Speaker B: Got it.
[00:37:28] Speaker A: But I said to Lisa, I said, I need to talk to somebody. So she introduced me to Dr. David Silverman, who sits on the medical board of the company. Right. And I said, I've used this gel three, four or five days, got great motion in my shoulder, virtually no discomfort, but that's not my problem.
He's like, what do you mean? Well, see, what Lisa didn't realize, in 2020, my kidneys were basically in renal failure. My liver enzymes were four times what they were supposed to be. I was taking 1200 milligrams a gabapentin just to put my feet on the floor, and it wasn't working.
My bladder held two to three ounces of fluid. I was up two, three times a night going to the bathroom. I was having headaches two to three times a week.
I was in a fog. I had no energy. I was a mess.
[00:38:17] Speaker B: Now, now you're not.
[00:38:19] Speaker A: It's all gone.
[00:38:22] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh. So, all right, now we don't have much time left, so I know I'm gonna. I'm. We're gonna move on. But I want you to, just for quick basic 101, tell people what Asea is.
[00:38:34] Speaker A: Well, ASEA is basically the communication between our cells and our immune system. These are molecules that reproduce in every one of our cells during the Krebs cycle, when we produce what we call adenosine triphosphate, which is energy. These two molecules communicate to the cells to help repair or replace and get the immune system to react to a problem.
Without them, you're gone in about three seconds.
So they're that important.
This company's been able to reproduce those molecules outside the human body in a bioactive form. Meaning it's bioidentical energy that our body produces.
Yep.
[00:39:14] Speaker B: And you know, folks out there, I actually use the water redox and the gel, and I've seen my pain dissipate and energy increase and whatnot. So it is the real deal. I think network marketing gets a bad rap just because of a few bad eggs in the industry. But asea, asea, I'm sure we're going to move on. But you guys, I know you've found you captured the essence of Bob Hayek, and you're going to want to get in touch with him, especially about the ASEA product. And you can get in touch with Bob and his phone number. It's 732-241-7427.
[00:39:50] Speaker A: No, no, no, no, no.
732-241-3423, 427.
[00:39:57] Speaker B: Drew couldn't read his own writing 3427 or at his web. His email address at hayek h a y e k.rjmail.com and Bob's awesome. Bob brought me in on the. See, he's on my, my, what's it called, the upline or whatever.
[00:40:16] Speaker A: I'm your sponsor.
[00:40:17] Speaker B: He's my sponsor. He's, he's my, he's my brother from another mother.
[00:40:22] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:40:23] Speaker B: Absolutely that. So, Bob, I want to ask you a couple questions before we wrap up.
So I want to give you the opportunity of. You're, you're in your happy place. You're sitting with 7 to 10 year old Bob Hayek and you want to give him advice about life. What are you going to tell young Bob?
[00:40:41] Speaker A: Go for your dreams.
Go for it. Believe in yourself. Have the confidence to, to do what you want to do. Don't let anybody derail you from that because it's, it's your life. Everybody else could be gone. It's you.
So it's your dream, it's your goal, it's your passion. Go for it.
[00:41:03] Speaker B: Love it. All right, now switch gears. And now you're speaking with young Bob, the young businessman, young entrepreneur, and you want to give him advice about business. What are you going to tell him?
[00:41:11] Speaker A: You got to be focused. You got to be driven. You, you, you can't. You, you've got to be persistent and consistent in what you do. And you got to learn. You gotta, you gotta look to others for guidance, but you gotta be focused. You gotta stay on course and, and do what you need to do.
[00:41:31] Speaker B: Love it. Well, Bob, I want to, I want to thank you for coming on. Thank you for coming into my life, my friend.
You are a wonderful guy. Keep doing what you're doing. You're helping a ton of people with not only the financial stuff, but also the, the bio, biotech stuff with, with Asea, because Redox is the real deal and they know how to do it. So Bob, thanks again, my friend.
[00:41:54] Speaker A: Thank you for having me. I appreciate it. Drew, you're doing a great thing here.
[00:41:57] Speaker B: My pleasure, my pleasure. Everybody out there, please take care of yourselves.
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