Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign the podcast for those who find themselves immersed in adversity and choose to write their story instead of having others write it for them. I'm Drew Duraney, and I'm your host.
Today's guest is Susie Taylor. Susie Taylor helps entrepreneurs tell their stories with clarity and heart.
As a story brand guide and writer, she partners with small business owners to create marketing that feels authentic and actually brings results.
With Suzy, you will make your message meaningful so your business makes the impact it was meant to. Enjoy the show. Susie Taylor, it's so good to see you.
[00:00:47] Speaker B: Well, thank you. It's good to see you too, Drew.
[00:00:50] Speaker A: Oh, wow. So I always like to thank the person who introduced me to my guest, and this one's kind of like, kind of funny one, because, you know, before, you know, we hit the record, when you had clicked on the. The zoom link I gave you, it didn't work. So you called me, and when you said, it's Suzanne Taylor, I was thinking, I know a Suzanne Taylor. I know somebody named Suzanne Taylor King. Stk. So it got me confused. And then I realized, okay, same name. And that's how we met. We were actually at a networking event that STK was hosting. And so indirectly, through stk, Suzanne Taylor King, I got to meet Susie Taylor. And. And I just think that's. That's kind of cool because there's always a reason why people meet or get introduced, and.
And we are going to discuss a lot of that today on this podcast. So thank you, stk. Even though you don't realize that you introduced me to Susie Taylor.
So. Susie, why.
Hey, gang out there. And audience. You know, I always talk about life being linear in the beginning, and so we're going to get to why Susie's here.
You know, when we're young, we're taught that life is linear. And it's not a malicious teaching by our family or friends or whoever we're around.
It's more of a hope.
People say to you, if you do A plus, B plus C, in that order, D is going to happen.
And for the most part, life is linear until it's not. There's always an external circumstance that gets in the way in between one of those letters and kind of derails us. And our life goes from that straight path to a more circuitous one.
Now, when that happens, we either notice that adversity or we don't. And if we notice it, we either do something about it or. Or we don't.
So with that, I believe there's three types of people out there Three types of humans. And for, for Susie's case, three types of women.
Woman number one has a ton of blind spots.
She doesn't even notice the adversity. She just goes along life and says, this is the way I was told I should live my life. I'm on autopilot. I'm just going to live it the way it presents itself. And she doesn't change anything.
Then there's woman number two.
Woman number two has a more heightened self awareness than woman number one. She notices that adversity, yet she says, I'm the victim.
That's life doing it to me.
Everybody else is to blame. Life is what it is. I can't control this. I'm not changing anything. And on her deathbed, woman number two's got a lot of regrets. And then there's woman number three. That's Susie Taylor. And it's the women and men I have on this show.
Woman number three notices the adversity. And she says, you know, I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired.
This adversity is not a barrier. It's an opportunity. It's an opportunity for me to do something different, take some massive action and become a stronger woman on the other side.
So with that, Susie, if you could reach back as far as you need to for that defining in moment, that defining moment in life, whether it's the tap on the shoulder, the whisper in the ear, or like I needed two by four upside my head, that woke you up, that transformed you from the woman you were to the woman you are and how that defining moment kind of changed you personally and professionally. Would you like to share that with the audience, please?
[00:04:23] Speaker B: Sure. Absolutely. I think it's the reason we met.
I was on the path of becoming a. Prof. A public relations professional. I was media relations director for a statewide organization.
I had just coordinated a statewide election campaign in, in opposition to an issue that was on the ballot.
And I, I had just gotten pregnant at the beginning of this process, on election day, my water broke.
[00:05:05] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:05:06] Speaker B: That was at 19 weeks of pregnancy.
19 weeks.
And you know what? I'm going to take that back.
My baby was born on election day, but at 19 weeks, at the beginning of September is when my water broke. And so I'm trying to coordinate this campaign on my couch.
The baby comes six or seven weeks later. That means he was born at 26 weeks gestation, which 32 years ago was not a slam dunk like it can be today.
And, and that's, that's when I realized this was not Going to be the life I thought it was going to be.
[00:05:56] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:05:57] Speaker B: I was totally prepared to stay home for my six weeks, find a daycare center, go back to work, get back into my high power job, back to my company car, all that stuff.
But when they took that baby from the hospital where he was born to the local children's hospital, then that night that he was born, election night, which was the same night that Bill Clinton was elected, by the way.
[00:06:28] Speaker A: Okay, so that's the.
[00:06:29] Speaker B: Okay, those are the silly things that you remember.
[00:06:32] Speaker A: Of course. Yeah, yeah.
[00:06:34] Speaker B: I looked at my mom and I was just like, when will I see him again?
Because he was not doing well. He was on a ventilator. He.
All those, all those things.
And that's when it hit me that this is going to change things. This is really going to change things. The child we thought we were getting is not the child we got. Now, I believe that before he was born, Evan chose my husband and me to be his parents.
And I didn't come to that belief until later on, but at that point, it hit me that this is, this is not going to be that typical thing when somebody has a baby and they go back to work and they hire somebody else to take care of their baby.
Because as it turned out, he spent five months in the hospital right after he was born.
And when he came home, he was on all kinds of equipment. There was no way I was going to be able to have anybody else watch him. And there was no way I wanted anybody else to be responsible for him.
[00:07:45] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:07:45] Speaker B: So, yeah. And it was just weird because my husband and I both had similar paying jobs. And so we're like, one of us is going to have to stay home.
[00:07:55] Speaker A: Yeah, absolutely.
[00:07:57] Speaker B: One of us is not going to be able to go back to our job.
And we really considered, what are we going to do? And that's when I said, you know what you have. He had better opportunities in the future. I'm like, I can always come back and pick this up later.
[00:08:13] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:08:14] Speaker B: You know, when he's better, when he's in school, I'll be able to do all those things.
And that's when we decided as a team that I would be the one to stay home.
[00:08:24] Speaker A: Wow. That's a big decision. And thank. Thankfully you have a solid marriage, solid foundation where you, you consider each other's feelings. What a decision.
I get it. I mean, your son's now home with you, and what, what was the issue that he had to be on all those machines at home?
I know. Premature birth.
[00:08:50] Speaker B: Yeah. Premature birth. He suffered a brain hemorrhage when he was three days old. So he had suffered hydrocephalus.
So at some point they put a shunt in his brain that would shunt the fluid off of his brain so that he.
Because his head kept growing and you know, it was.
He was one of those flks, those funny looking kids.
And he had a G tube and it had just been placed, so it wasn't something that it had to be open to the air all the time. So whenever I carried him, I had a syringe safety pinned to my shirt that was attached to his G tube.
There was just a lot of stuff. Luckily, he was not on any oxygen or anything like that.
[00:09:41] Speaker A: But still, the risk for infection with the open.
[00:09:45] Speaker B: Absolutely.
[00:09:46] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:09:47] Speaker B: Absolutely. Yeah, yeah. And there were doctor's appointments almost three times a week. There would be a difference.
[00:09:55] Speaker A: What a challenge that is because you have to get the baby, your son, into the car with what you had.
[00:10:02] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:10:03] Speaker A: God bless you for getting through that. Okay, so all those doctor's appointments.
Yeah. Keep going. I'm sorry, just.
[00:10:11] Speaker B: No, it was. It was pretty, pretty. You know, for me, I'm looking back, I'm like, it was pretty normal, you know, a kid with a G tube.
[00:10:24] Speaker A: And feeding him with it becomes your normal and all that.
[00:10:27] Speaker B: And at the time I was. I was still pumping breast milk and slowly that went away. But it was just. Just a lot of going and doing and not a lot of thinking.
Just responding is what it is, what it was.
[00:10:50] Speaker A: Right.
[00:10:50] Speaker B: And then when. When Evan, my son's name is, was Evan. And when Evan was 2 years old, I was. He was in the living room and I was in my kitchen with my parents, and my dad looked up and said, oh, look, Evan's dancing.
And I looked in and he was having a seizure.
And.
And that was when his seizure history started, was when he started.
[00:11:16] Speaker A: Right. That's age two.
[00:11:18] Speaker B: That was at two. Yeah.
And Evan was the type of kid that when he would get an ear infection, the first symptom that we had was he would have a seizure. There would be no fever, he wouldn't rub his ears. There would be nothing like that. He would have a seizure. They would check him out. There would be an ear infection. It was. So he had a very, very low seizure threshold. And it took a long time for us to get his seizures under control.
And I rem.
The squad came, took him to the hospital, and we were. We go into the emergency department and the doctor's asking me all these questions and I just Start in with former premature rupture of membranes. At 19 weeks birth. At 26 weeks, hemiplegic cerebral palsy, brain hemorrhage. At this age, he was blind. He had retinopathy of prematurity. So he was blind. And. And the doctor looked at me and says, are you a nurse?
And I said, no. My son has just spent half of his life in your hospital.
And this is how I talk now in medical terms.
[00:12:26] Speaker A: Unbelievable.
[00:12:27] Speaker B: And that was another moment for me, another transition moment for me to realize that I didn't talk like a normal mom.
[00:12:38] Speaker A: No.
Wow. So the blindness, did all that happen because of the premature birth or the hydrocephaly or the seizure or was he blind at birth?
[00:12:55] Speaker B: No.
It all happened because of his prematurity.
In babies, one of the last organs to form is the retina.
And so in those last few weeks, that retina is growing on the back of the baby's eyeball. And when he was born, it was such trauma that the retina stopped growing.
And then when it started growing again, rather than laying against the back of the eyeball, it grew out into the. The center of his eye and basically detached whatever retina he had.
[00:13:33] Speaker A: Oh, my goodness.
[00:13:33] Speaker B: Okay, so. So he was. He was technically blind. Now, the fun thing is, is that I'm getting ahead of myself.
[00:13:43] Speaker A: It's okay.
[00:13:44] Speaker B: The fun thing is, is after he passed away, the one organ that they were able to use were his corneas.
[00:13:53] Speaker A: No, kid. Wow.
[00:13:55] Speaker B: Yeah, his corneas. I'm like, he never used them. So somebody else got his cornea.
[00:13:59] Speaker A: Else was able.
[00:14:00] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:14:01] Speaker A: Yeah. That's unbelievable. It's okay that you got ahead of yourself. This is your story, and this is Evan's story.
So tell me about his, you know, growing up differently abled and how you and your husband, you know, changed your life to help his.
[00:14:27] Speaker B: Well, we ended up having two more boys, so.
And his.
Our middle son is just 16 months younger than Evan.
And so we were in Columbia. Columbus, Ohio. I could walk everywhere I went. We had this double stroller, and people would stop me and ask me if they were twins. And, you know, depending on my mood, I would either say no and explain, or I would say, oh, yeah, yeah, and just let it go at that.
I had to grow a thick skin.
[00:14:59] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[00:15:01] Speaker B: I had a gentleman yell at me in the parking lot of a grocery store because my baby's face wasn't covered, and he was looking straight into the son, and I was going to get him blind.
[00:15:15] Speaker A: Oh, wow.
[00:15:16] Speaker B: And I. I was not in a great mood that day, and I was not very understanding. And I turned and I said, that's okay. He's already blind. It's not going to hurt him. And of course, the guy slunk away. Whatever.
[00:15:28] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:15:30] Speaker B: There was a time in that same grocery store that I.
I. Evan was in a wheelchair.
Philip, his younger brother, was in the car, the seat of the. The buggy.
Our third boy hadn't been born yet. I'm going down the aisle, pushing the wheelchair, pulling the buggy, the. The cart. And someone yelled down the aisle, hey, what's wrong with your little boy?
And I turned to Philip, the one in the. In the. And I'm looking all over, and I'm. I'm like, nothing.
[00:16:02] Speaker A: What?
[00:16:02] Speaker B: What do you mean? What's wrong with my little boy? Yeah, not that one. The one in the wheelchair. I'm like, nothing. He's got cerebral palsy. But there's nothing wrong with him.
[00:16:12] Speaker A: Wrong with him. Exactly. Wow. Oh, the things some people will say.
[00:16:17] Speaker B: I've had people stop me. May I pray for your son, for his healing?
Sure.
Go right ahead. I mean, if. If. If he could get healed, wake up tomorrow morning.
[00:16:29] Speaker A: If someone said that you'd accept that, that's wonderful. Okay. Okay.
[00:16:32] Speaker B: Yeah, that's fine. You do you and.
[00:16:35] Speaker A: Okay. Got it. Yeah.
[00:16:36] Speaker B: We'll take whatever comes.
[00:16:37] Speaker A: We'll take whatever comes and helps.
[00:16:38] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:16:41] Speaker A: All right. So you have Evan and Philip, and then the third boy is.
[00:16:46] Speaker B: Derek. Derek. Yeah. Derek was Philip. Evan was born in 92, Philip in 94, Derek in 97.
[00:16:54] Speaker A: Wow. Okay.
[00:16:55] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:16:55] Speaker A: And the health of Philip and Derek, they were not born premature or.
[00:17:02] Speaker B: No, no, they were not born prematurely. It turned out that Philip had pretty bad adhd.
[00:17:08] Speaker A: Oh.
[00:17:08] Speaker B: And so that was a struggle.
Own.
[00:17:11] Speaker A: That's another.
[00:17:13] Speaker B: My husband and I used to call homework time homework wars. And we would tag each other out when one of us got to the point where we were going to lose our minds.
[00:17:24] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[00:17:25] Speaker B: And then Derek.
[00:17:28] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:17:28] Speaker B: Derek was great.
[00:17:31] Speaker A: Okay.
Wow.
[00:17:33] Speaker B: But in the eighth grade, he started having seizures.
[00:17:35] Speaker A: All boys. Okay.
[00:17:36] Speaker B: And.
And we found out that. I thought he was just daydreaming, but we found out he was having absence seizures because he would come home and say, the teacher explained how to do this to everyone except for me.
[00:17:52] Speaker A: Oh.
[00:17:53] Speaker B: And I would be like, you were daydreaming. You got to pay attention in class.
Or the teacher showed everyone what we were supposed to do with this. With this project. But I. She never told me.
[00:18:09] Speaker A: I never heard of absent absence.
[00:18:12] Speaker B: What's it called? He would. He would just disappear for 30 seconds.
[00:18:16] Speaker A: And it would be a seizure happening, and he wouldn't know it.
[00:18:19] Speaker B: Right.
And we never noticed.
[00:18:22] Speaker A: Wow. But okay.
[00:18:23] Speaker B: But then on a specifically long day, he was in track Boy Scouts.
[00:18:30] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:18:30] Speaker B: Particularly long day. Got to the end of the day, came out to talk to my husband and me, and he just fell over and went into a tonic clonic seizure.
[00:18:40] Speaker A: Oh, my God.
[00:18:40] Speaker B: And.
And that's when he was diagnosed with epilepsy.
And so we dealt with. It was really kind of fortuitous because the same neurologist who dealt with Evan.
[00:18:59] Speaker A: Right.
[00:18:59] Speaker B: Take Phil or take Eric, too.
[00:19:01] Speaker A: All right.
[00:19:01] Speaker B: And so we would schedule appointments and it would be. Evan would be first, Eric would be second. And, you know, it was not that big of a deal.
He eventually grew out of them and was able to get off of his medication.
[00:19:14] Speaker A: Oh, wow.
[00:19:15] Speaker B: Was able to get into the Marines, went through boot camp, went through everything. And then while he was in waiting for his classes to start, he had two more seizures.
[00:19:26] Speaker A: And he was medically.
[00:19:28] Speaker B: He was medically separated from the Marines, which was very difficult because he had planned on being a marine forever.
[00:19:38] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:19:38] Speaker B: That was.
[00:19:39] Speaker A: He went through all the training, and that was his.
I. I'm. I didn't know could come back like that. I. I didn't know. Can go away and then come back. Okay. How's.
How's Derek doing now?
[00:19:50] Speaker B: Oh, he's great.
[00:19:51] Speaker A: How old?
[00:19:52] Speaker B: He's off his medicine again.
He and his neurologist kind of figured out that he has a pretty low seizure threshold, so he needs to get sleep, he needs to stay hydrated.
[00:20:04] Speaker A: He.
[00:20:05] Speaker B: He can't push himself, can't get overheated, and he knows that now. And being a 27 year old man who likes to work out, who likes physical jobs, it has been hard for him, of course. But he's also accepted that this is what his brain is. Does and.
[00:20:26] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:20:26] Speaker B: And he's got to take care of himself.
[00:20:28] Speaker A: So he accepts it, manages it, and takes care of himself. Okay.
[00:20:31] Speaker B: Doesn't mean he likes it, but he's.
[00:20:33] Speaker A: Oh, no. And that's part of life, right? We.
[00:20:36] Speaker B: Yeah, that's part of that nonlinear.
[00:20:38] Speaker A: Nonlinear thing. Of course.
[00:20:40] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:20:41] Speaker A: All right, so that's Derek, and we'll get to Evan in a second.
Of course. Now you got me flustered because I'm like thinking my heart's going out to you guys. Your middle son's name, I kill it.
Tell me about Philip. What's he up to now? How old is he? What's he doing?
[00:20:58] Speaker B: Oh, Philip.
Philip has found himself with sled Dogs.
He is a dog musher. He spends his winters in Utah taking tourists for dog sled rides.
[00:21:12] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:21:13] Speaker B: For three summers, he went to Juneau and gave dog sled rides in Juneau for the summer. But he decided not to do that this year. Decided to stay home, help with the family farm. So both Philip are on the family.
[00:21:26] Speaker A: Farm, helping a family farm, too. That's. Wow. Now I'm wondering about the adhd, if that ended up being a blessing with the dog sledding type of job.
[00:21:38] Speaker B: My gosh.
The thing that people don't realize about ADHD is that when somebody who has that kind of a brain grabs a hold of something.
[00:21:49] Speaker A: Right.
[00:21:49] Speaker B: They grab a hold of it with everything that they own. Everything.
[00:21:54] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:21:54] Speaker B: And he knows all the Iditarod winners. He knows where they. Where they did their training, what kennel they got their dogs from.
He. And. And he. He basically is coordinating this 36 dog team.
[00:22:15] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:22:15] Speaker B: To run four dog sleds four times a day.
[00:22:19] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:22:20] Speaker B: And he just loves it. He just absolutely loves.
[00:22:23] Speaker A: Unbelievable. Oh, that's good to hear.
All right, so let's get to Evan. You did make mention of his passing. The positive being the corneas were able to be implanted in another human. And help tell us about Evan and what happened and why he's not with us.
[00:22:43] Speaker B: Okay.
Evan had had reflux, and so when he was an infant, they did this procedure on him called a Nissen or a phonoplication, where they basically tied the top of his stomach into a knot so that things could go down, but they couldn't come back up again.
He never really developed that suck swallow. So his swallow was very delayed. He very seldom ate anything by mouth except for ice cream. He was a true Taylor man and loved ice cream.
And at some point, that funder plication herniated and herniated up into his chest cavity. So part of his stomach was now up in his chest cavity.
Didn't cause any problems.
[00:23:37] Speaker A: Oh, okay.
[00:23:37] Speaker B: Didn't we. We knew that to fix that, it was going to be a really tough, tough surgery.
[00:23:44] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:23:45] Speaker B: And then in.
In August of 2020.
[00:23:50] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:23:50] Speaker B: He started experiencing severe pain where he would hit his head on this. The railing of his bed because he.
[00:24:02] Speaker A: Couldn'T tell you what was going on.
[00:24:04] Speaker B: Couldn't tell us what was going on. He would smack his arms on the. The railings of it. The arm rests of his wheelchair. He would have bruises all over.
He would bite his hand. And. And it was. He was so frustrated because he could not tell us what was going right.
[00:24:23] Speaker A: And it's frustrating you, too, as a parent.
[00:24:25] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh. We went through test after test after test, and they couldn't find anything was wrong other than this herniation, but they didn't. They did. They did a test to see if there was reflux, no reflux from it, so nothing had changed. Except for now. He was experiencing this terrible pain.
And that was the only thing that. That the doctors could point to was that this is the only thing that we think it is.
[00:24:56] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:24:57] Speaker B: And so we decided to go ahead and have that surgery done.
[00:25:01] Speaker A: Surgery. Okay.
[00:25:03] Speaker B: As it turned out, he never recovered from that surgery. And he spent.
[00:25:07] Speaker A: So. Sorry.
[00:25:08] Speaker B: Five weeks in the icu.
[00:25:09] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:25:10] Speaker B: Developed sepsis, a system wide sepsis. And succumbed after about five weeks. On my husband's and my wedding anniversary, which was yesterday, by the way.
[00:25:23] Speaker A: Happy anniversary for your wedding.
May his memory be eternal.
[00:25:30] Speaker B: It's taken a while, but I look back and I'm like, he just. He gave us so much and left such a legacy and such a batch of memories behind.
[00:25:49] Speaker A: Yes, he did.
[00:25:50] Speaker B: And I would give anything to have him back again. But, Drew, you and I never would have met.
[00:25:57] Speaker A: No. No, you're right, we wouldn't. Because that's what a lot of the.
[00:26:01] Speaker B: People I do business with now I never would have met.
[00:26:04] Speaker A: No, it's true.
[00:26:05] Speaker B: And so it's kind of been an awakening. And remember when I said, you know, I can get back to that now? I am. I'm back. I'm back to where I. Where I was 32 years ago.
[00:26:18] Speaker A: Absolutely. Well, tell us about Susie Taylor marketing. I love the fact that you're into the whole storytelling, and I love behind you, for the people who aren't watching on YouTube, the certified story brand Guide. Tell us about your marketing business.
[00:26:35] Speaker B: Well, I started. I formed my LLC a week after Evan's funeral, which I'm looking back now, and I'm thinking that was way too soon. Way, way too soon. But I started and I started writing website copy for an SEO agency.
And I learned so much. But then In February of 24, I decided to become a story brand guide. So I went through the training.
[00:27:02] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:27:03] Speaker B: And.
And it just was the first time that I actually could think. This is how I bring a client through. This is how I help someone solve their marketing problems.
And that's the bottom line, is it? It's. I. I'm a copywriter, but I don't like thinking of myself as a copywriter because the definition of a copywriter is someone who persuades someone to buy something.
[00:27:30] Speaker A: Yeah. And stories don't do that. So, so give me the, the layperson's 101 definition of the story brand certification.
[00:27:37] Speaker B: Like the story brand framework is based on the story structure of the hero's journey. Okay, so think of Star Wars. Let's think of Star Wars. There's Luke Skywalker.
All of a sudden he's thrown into this battle between the rebels and the, the, the, you know, Darth Vader guys. The Empire.
[00:28:01] Speaker A: Yeah, that's it.
[00:28:02] Speaker B: And he has no clue, no clue what to do. So along comes Obi Wan Kenobi and guides him through and teaches him what he needs to know.
[00:28:12] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:28:14] Speaker B: And, and then Luke accepts all that guidance, takes that planning, takes that training, and goes on to, to success to be the hero.
[00:28:23] Speaker A: Right.
[00:28:24] Speaker B: And the point is, your business is not the hero of somebody's story.
They're the hero of their own story. You are the guide to recognize that they have a problem and you have the solution.
[00:28:39] Speaker A: Love that.
[00:28:39] Speaker B: And it's your job to give them the plan.
Show them that you know what you're talking about, that you can be trusted. You give them a plan, you tell them, show them what to do, and then that leads that customer on to success. Now, people don't have just one problem.
[00:29:00] Speaker A: No, no, no, no, no. And usually the first problem you learn about is not the, the essential thing.
[00:29:06] Speaker B: So you just kind of choose the one that is the most important and then you solve that one, you go on to the next one and. Yeah, so that's, that's basically it. I like to think of myself as solving people's problems and helping their businesses thrive.
[00:29:22] Speaker A: You worked on your own issues in your personal life and helped your family thrive. So. So I can see this marketing thing being piece of cake for you. My goodness. Well, yeah, the audience certainly has captured the essence of Susie Taylor.
Audience LinkedIn. Best way to reach Susie. And the. The handle is Susie Dash Taylor. Dash Ohio. So put that in because I know when I looked up Susie Taylor, I saw a ton of them there. So make sure you have that Dash Ohio in the, in the handle. And I'll put this in the, in the show notes too.
All right, we got two final questions. All right.
[00:30:02] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:30:04] Speaker A: And to give you the opportunity, use your imagination.
You're sitting in your happy, happy place and you're sitting down with young 7 to 10 year old Susie and you want to give her advice about life.
What would you tell her?
[00:30:23] Speaker B: I think I would tell her that she needs to say yes more often.
[00:30:30] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:30:32] Speaker B: Take the risk.
[00:30:33] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:30:33] Speaker B: Take.
Live the adventure. Don't be safe, because I look back at and I think I was. I was safe. I played it safe.
[00:30:43] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:30:44] Speaker B: And I would really want her to have those experiences, to go to this retreat, to go to, you know, do whatever.
Say yes more often and not spend so much time by yourself.
[00:31:00] Speaker A: There you go.
Community. Right? I love that, Susie. All right, so switch gears now. You're sitting down with young Susie, the young businesswoman, young entrepreneur, and you want to give her advice about business. What are you going to tell her?
[00:31:15] Speaker B: That she's a salesperson, whether she likes it or not.
I just wrote an article about if you've ever tried to talk someone into going to a restaurant, you are a salesperson.
[00:31:27] Speaker A: Interesting.
[00:31:28] Speaker B: As a parent, you are a salesperson.
And. And the fact that you don't want to be one of those pushy, do it my way types of people, that means you're a good person.
[00:31:41] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:31:43] Speaker B: And. And I think Zig. Zig Ziglar said that if you spend your career helping other people meet their goals, you will meet your goal.
[00:31:55] Speaker A: Yes. I love that. Absolutely. Absolutely.
That's wonderful advice.
[00:31:59] Speaker B: That.
[00:31:59] Speaker A: Wonderful advice. Wonderful advice professionally and personally for that. Well, Susie, I want to thank you for coming on, being vulnerable, being authentic.
I thank you for being the human being you are and what you did for and with Evan.
You're part of his legacy.
Continue to do what you're doing. You're helping a lot of people, even if it's marketing for their business, you're helping people in their life, you know, tackle some things that they never expected to have to tackle so well.
[00:32:36] Speaker B: I'm surprised at how often Evan shows up.
[00:32:39] Speaker A: I'm sure he does work. Yeah, I'm sure he does.
[00:32:42] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:32:42] Speaker A: God bless.
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