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[00:00:09] Speaker B: The podcast for those who find themselves immersed in adversity and choose to write their story instead of having others write it for them. I'm Drew Duraney and I'm your host. Today's guest is Mitch Levinson. Mitch is a purpose driven executive consultant, coach and non profit leader with a career spanning over two decades of growth, strategy, marketing, innovation, operational excellence and team alignment. From building and selling his own digital marketing agency to leading multimillion dollar marketing teams in SaaS, real estate, tech and healthcare, Mitch brings a deep wealth of knowledge and a unique ability to create clarity in complexity. He currently supports companies as a fractional cmo, CRO and revenue side expert through his firm Strategy Recheck where he helps businesses reframe challenges, uncover blind spots and accelerate profitable growth. Mitch is more than a marketing executive. He's a connector bridge builder and servant leader who shows up to get the best out of people and organizations. His leadership philosophy rooted in the poem the Bridge Builder informs everything he does from coaching youth sports to mentoring high school entrepreneurs and serving as a DECA judge. He has extensive experience working with B2B SaaS, companies, private equity backed firms and founder led businesses offering both strategic guidance and hand on execution. In addition to his professional consulting work, Mitch is the Director of Philanthropy for Temple Beth Shalom in Austin and the founder of Joey's Journeys, a non profit dedicated to creating inclusive travel experiences for families with special needs children. The organization was inspired by his stepson who was on the autism spectrum and recently received the 2024 most inspirational athlete Award for Special Olympics Texas. Joey's story fuels Mitch's advocacy, leadership and fundraising effort to build a better, more accessible world. Mitch shares insights and
[email protected] and when he's not consulting, writing or coaching, you can find him cheering on Chicago sports teams, mentoring young leaders, or building meaningful relationships that drive real impact. Mitch is currently open to supporting up to three more companies in 2024 as a consultant, executive advisor or board member and helping prepare them for breakout success in 2025. Enjoy the show Mitch. It's an honor to see you my friend.
[00:02:54] Speaker A: Thank you. Thanks for having me Drew. Appreciate it.
[00:02:56] Speaker B: It's my, it's my pleasure. So I always love to thank the individual who introduced me to my guest and today I have to thank Adam Citron once again. Another wonderful, wonderful introduction. Adam, thank you so much for the introduction to Mitch. And you know, why is Mitch here everybody? Well, I. I always begin this podcast by speaking about that linear life, that linear path that we're taught when we're young. And it's not a malicious teaching. Our family, our friends, everybody wants it to be that straight line. If you do A plus, B plus C, D is going to happen. God knows I did all the right things and I had a lot of adversity. So at some point in our life, life is linear until it's not. That external circumstance that comes in front of us, gets in the way of one of those letters and kind of moves that linear path to a more circuit route.
Now you're on that securitous route, and I believe there's three types of men on that route. You could either be man number one with a ton of blind spots. Life's in front of you. You don't really notice that. You see anything that could be an opportunity or a barrier. It's like, this is just life. I'm going to plow through it. And you don't. You're on autopilot. Man number two has a heightened self awareness, definitely more than man number one. And he sees the adversity in front of him, yet he believes he's the victim. He plays the blame game. I can't change this. This is life happening to me. I'm just gonna live this life that was given to me. And he's on his deathbed with a ton of regrets because he knew he could have changed something. He realizes it then. Man number three is Mitch is me. It's that man who has a height more heightened self awareness than man number two because he says, I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired. These adversities are not barriers. These are opportunities. Life's giving me something. It's doing, it's doing it for me so I can take this opportunity and do something different, be a different man, end up stronger on the other side. So I'm going to ask you, Mitch, to reach back as far as you need to for that defining moment. The tap on the shoulder, the whisper in the ear, or I needed the 2 by 4 upside the head that moved you from wherever you were to where you are now. One to man three. Two to three, whatever it is, share that with us, my friend.
[00:05:12] Speaker A: Yeah. So, you know, that's interesting, Drew.
When we had our first conversation, I started to think, you know, there. There have been multiple times in my life where I've come against adversity and had to make decisions. And I could have taken the easy way. I could have just went with it and gone with the flow or decided to either make change or do something. Different or take advantage of an opportunity. So there's a lot of those. And. And I've had multiple jobs. I've been an entrepreneur. I've been through a divorce, a difficult one. I am second married. I have autistic son. So there's a lot of things that have happened in my world, but there are. There are two very specific examples that I can think of.
And the first one is business related, for sure. I was working for a company that. It was an Internet company. It was during the time when the Internet was booming. I was on a professional services team, leading their team, actually nationally. And when the Internet bubble burst, everyone on our professional services side of the business was laid off. And I had two kids. I had just adopted one from Russia, and I had a small family, and I didn't know what I was going to do, and I was kind of, you know, kind of going with it. And. And, you know, it was very new. So. So what did I do? You know, when I was younger, my parents always taught me, you know, always do the right thing. You always got to move forward. So what I thought the right thing was at that time was I have to call all the clients that I had. I have to tell them what happened. I have to be transparent. And by the way, they've worked with me. I have to ask them for referrals because I needed a job, I needed to do something because again, I had a young family, ended up having three kids, not just two, but.
But so. So I started to smile and dial. I picked up the phone with my tail between my legs. You know, your new contact is going to be Tom. I'm no longer there. This is the change in what the business has done. And by the way, I'm looking for what's next for me. And I had three Fortune 1000 companies say to me, well, you've been doing professional services while you're looking for a job, why don't you do some consulting work for us until you find something? And I said, I got a family. I got to get a job. I need. You know, this is what people tell you, you need a job. And then they told me what they paid consultants. And I started my business, my first business, with 30 hours sold because they knew my work ethic. They knew I knew the projects that they were having me work on. They. I knew all of the people. And it was an easy transition. And it was at that moment that I realized that not only is it who you know, not always what you know, Right. But it's your character and your integrity follow you and people hire you like you, connect you, be part of your world because of that. So I started, I started just on my own and then a few years later I had to make decisions to grow and take out more clients and add industries and you know, start this, this agency.
But it was at that very first moment when I made those first sets of calls to say I have to get a job. Who do you know that's looking to hire someone? I have a young family. And it's, it's that moment of indecision where, where what I thought was different than what I needed and hadn't. If I hadn't taken that opportunity to just say, yes, move forward, I don't think I would be where I am today. And it was very exciting.
[00:09:07] Speaker B: I love how you, you, you said smile and dial. And that's very important. A lot of people are afraid or the ego kind of tells you, protects you and says, keep your tail between your legs and don't make that call. Yeah, the smile is important too because the smile will, will. The people can feel it on the other end. So I love that smile and dial. So there's point number one, everybody.
[00:09:32] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:09:32] Speaker B: So, all right, I love, I love this. And so you're on your way and then what?
[00:09:37] Speaker A: And so I started that business and I started just consulting with, with companies. And because of the work that I was doing, it was, it was new, it was related work in an industry that didn't have a lot of Internet and in fact the world didn't even know what the Internet was back in the, you know, in the 90s and early 2000s. So I was kind of leading the charge and I had a lot of companies call and ask me to do projects for them and with them. And I one company who brought me on board as a external consultant, but they, they bought all of my time and I had other clients that needed my services. Yeah. So I had to make a decision. What was I going to do? Was I going to let everyone down and go work just for this one company or how was I going to handle that? So that's when I had to make the difficult decision to start. I can no longer be a one man show. I have to bring on more people. I have to find someone that knows the business similar to me. They may not know it exactly like I do, but I was able to bring on a few people and we made the decision to grow and it was, it was very exciting. And ultimately I ran that business for 25 years and sold it to a different company. And you know, we ended up with 19 different people and it was a full service boutique digital marketing agency. So it was, it was great. But, but when you get to a point as a person where you have to make a decision, sometimes it's easy. There are decisions that are easy and there are decisions that are difficult. And sometimes the more difficult decision is a better decision in the long term. What I always have done since that very first time when I had to make that decision, and I knew it would have been way easier to just get a job with someone and count on that paycheck every single week or every couple of weeks instead of having to scavenge for the next deal while I'm fulfilling my obligations.
Since that first time, it's been, it's been easy. I evaluate decisions. Are they good short term decisions, are they good medium term decisions or they good long term decisions? And, and ultimately I have to think about what's best for me and my family while at the same time understanding that my integrity and what I need to do has to maintain or stay intact for everyone else because I can't change or create different brand awareness for who I am.
[00:12:04] Speaker B: Absolutely. Now you mentioned I love that easy decision, difficult decision. When selling that company that you built, how difficult was that?
[00:12:14] Speaker A: Actually, this one was pretty easy because they wanted to absorb us and offer what I built to their client base. So it wasn't a traditional sale.
[00:12:25] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:12:26] Speaker A: They really kind of, they brought all my employees on board and, and they, they really just wanted to offer their clients my services. And instead of just referrals, they just brought us in house as if we were their department.
So that was, that was, that was pretty interesting. Although, you know, they. About six or eight months after I did that, the board of directors at this company replaced the CEO on a weekend abruptly. And they made a very different strategic decision to flatten the company because they wanted to position it for a sale. So my business unit was put on the block, so to speak. So it was very interesting how that went down. And I had a whole set of circumstances that happened there which led to my next main change, which was, you know, starting my nonprofit for special needs.
[00:13:20] Speaker B: Okay, but this one, I mean, the first part was exciting. Yeah, this, this I'm, I'm looking forward to hearing. So you sold the company.
[00:13:29] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:13:30] Speaker B: And, and then you had your what's next moment.
[00:13:33] Speaker A: Correct.
[00:13:34] Speaker B: So tell us about the what's next.
[00:13:36] Speaker A: Correct. So like I said, about a year after, you know, moving or transitioning, I was. They, they moved Me down to Austin, Texas. So I'm here in a new city with a family, special needs. We love to travel.
But I didn't know what I was going to do next. And I thought, you know, maybe I'll do something that I enjoy. I mean I very much enjoy digital marketing and my agency, but maybe I'll do something that I enjoy that also helps the community. I had always been a substitute teacher and a mentor at the high school for entrepreneurs and their incubator program. And you know, I always coached sports select and, and AAU and, and whatever at the middle school and high school level. So what, what can I do to help the community? And I thought maybe I would healthcare. Maybe it's nonprofit or maybe it's something.
So my wife and I with, with our autistic son and our two, two of our other kids went on a vacation and I started to look around and see the challenges that disability and the special needs community has with some of the simple travel experiences. Like, you know, and Joey, who's my stepson, he's highly functional, but definitely on the autistic spectrum and he loves to travel. But even simple things like waiting in line at the airport to go through security or you know, you know, the time you have to get to the airport early and wait and you know, just things like that are just very difficult for, for them. Since I, I started this charity, I've spoken to people who are in wheelchairs where, you know, you lose your luggage and it's one thing, you lose your wheelchair, that's twenty or thirty thousand dollar device, what do you do? You can't even get off the plane, you know, so there's, you know, there's a lot of challenges. You don't think about a lot. So I started to look around and see that, you know, there are some families that don't travel because of their special needs situation. There are some families that do travel, but their, their special needs kids get more of the attention than their other kids and their other kids feel kind of left out. The siblings and there's, there's lots of things. So I decided to start a charity called Joey's Journeys that, that, that is designed to raise awareness and create lasting memories for the special needs and disability community.
And it's, it's great. I started it last February actually. We're just over a year old.
[00:16:22] Speaker B: I love that you did this, do something for the community and you're also helping, you're also helping yourself. Fill your cup. Because when we do good for others, it fills us up and you're doing something great for Joey too, and others. So how challenging in the beginning was it to start a nonprofit?
[00:16:40] Speaker A: You know, it was, it was very challenging in that everyone says or said to me that, you know, that's a great idea, that's, that's awesome.
But having them participate and come with us on vacation or do a, you know, a small trip or understand what the challenges are, donate their time or money, that is what was very difficult, especially because a lot of people like to be charitable, a lot of people like to donate, a lot of people like to participate, but they want to make sure it's established. So, you know, the, it was obviously challenging, you know, to go through the process of getting the paperwork completed where, you know, we are a 501C3, we do have, are incorporated and we've gone through the entire process to, to do all that. But then it's, you know, we don't have a 990form to show everyone how we spend our money and that it's spent in an appropriate place. So again, people have to trust me that I'm doing the right thing and I'm doing this for the right reasons. And once they meet Joey and they see, you know, what he's all about and, and by the way, just a little plug for Joey. He was, you know, we moved to Texas in, in 2022, 2023, and, and he participates a lot in the Special Olympics and he was voted in 2024 the most inspirational athlete in the entire state of Texas by the Special Olympics Organization of Texas. So it's awesome.
[00:18:10] Speaker B: That's great.
[00:18:12] Speaker A: So, but, but getting started and getting people to buy in and getting people to understand what, what we're doing, we're not trying to build a charity so we can go on vacation. We're trying to build a charity and a community of people that are like minded, that can travel together and have the same kind of relief or stress reduction that everyone gets when they go on vacation. You know, just to, you know, if you have a special needs kid and you're going to a pool, you can't just sit at the pool and lay out and read a book. You know, it doesn't work that I don't care what, where on the spectrum. I don't care what kind of special, I don't care what kind of disability they have, that doesn't happen. But if you go with other people, you might get one afternoon that you can do that while everyone else helps out or while we bring a special caregiver. With us to help out or whatever the case may be. So, you know, and your. The siblings, by the way, they can play together and they can have their own time and they can have as much attention as they need. And it's a lot different than going yourself and trying to deal with it or handle it all yourself. Most people do. Some people decide not to go and just, you know, we're just not going to be able to do it until some point in the future. And. And to me, that's not the right thing because the personal growth that Joey experiences every time we go to a different country or a different location and he sees different lifestyles, everyone grows when they do that.
[00:19:44] Speaker B: Absolutely.
[00:19:45] Speaker A: So, I mean, that's really what the goal is.
[00:19:47] Speaker B: I love that. I absolutely love that. Yeah, it gives, it gives them hope for the future because my, my son's 23 and he is also.
But like, like Joey can. Can do a lot of things. It's the social skills and the emotional management that trips him up. And he has told me when I take him to different places, because we'll go to Boston, we're driving down to Clemson to see his sister in college. He sees that the life is more than just the home he lives in and the street and the town.
[00:20:20] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:20:20] Speaker B: And it broadens their world. So there's something else out there. So it has helped him with the hope, you know, of the future. And that's very important for people with special needs to know that there's. There's a good future for them.
[00:20:33] Speaker A: Yeah. And it's not just the people with special needs. You're exactly right. It's the whole families to know, you know, everyone will have some level of independence. Some will have more and some will have less because of their needs and because of their disabilities. But. But there is some level and to help them find what that level is and to grow to the highest potential of what that level might be. There's something about that that just. That's special to me. So. Yeah.
[00:21:01] Speaker B: Give me an example of a trip that others have benefited from and tell me, you know, just give me an idea of what, what you've done. So.
[00:21:11] Speaker A: Yeah, so we, you know, we like cruises a lot, but we've gone to cruises.
We've been to Mexico, we've been to the Bahamas and lots of different places. Even as much as, you know, we go to San Antonio, where we go to Houston, and, you know, we travel around here, St. Louis, where the Arch is. But there's a lot of places that are special needs, friendly but the biggest. The biggest example that I like to use is. Is most people on the spectrum, and again, most of my experience with spectrum. But I'm talking about people, you know, kids that have down syndrome or kids that are in wheelchairs, blind, you know, whatever the disability is, that's the same kind of growth. But kids like Joey, you know, when they go to, like, a flea market, let's say, at a. In Mexico, I don't know if you've ever been there, but, you know, you have everyone trying to sell you everything. There's 30 stores selling the same T shirts and, you know, three for a dollar, whatever it is. Right. And Joe and his friends are typically pleasers. Right. They like to make people happy. They don't like to say no, but you kind of have to in that environment.
So it was a great way for us to teach him and for him to understand better that it's okay to say no. Yeah, right. You're not hurting their feelings. They're not going to be mad at you. You know, you want a shirt, you can buy one shirt. There's 30 stores to buy the shirt at. Everyone wants to sell you the same shirt, and it's the same shirt, but you have to go talk to them and figure out which one you want. And maybe it's which person do you like the best? Because it's the same shirt, you know, so there were a lot of lessons in that one experience for. For people that have a hard time with that. And there's also the lesson of value. Right. Sometimes the shirts are $2, somet $10, it's the same shirt. Right. So how do you use that to engage? Joe will not be able to understand money and value and stuff like that. That's part of his disability. So we have to help him with that a lot. But. But that was at least something that he was able to see a difference because the same shirt was priced differently at two different places. So he at least understood that, you know, there's differences. But getting him to say no or to buy or to, you know, get into a conversation was. Was a great experience for him and a good opportunity for growth. I love that.
[00:23:39] Speaker B: I love that. I want to get into something that I just thought of now. So this is your second marriage, and Joey's your stepson, so. And I know a lot of men, women too, but I'm going to speak for me. A lot of men are in the situation where they either have a child with special needs, and then they're looking to find that significant other or they don't have a child with special needs and they find a significant other, and that significant other has a child with special needs. There's a dynamic there that's interesting. How did you, did you have any children with special needs before? No. So going into the relationship, learning, having, being a man who didn't have children with special needs and then meeting somebody who did have a child with special needs.
Tell me how that, emotionally, spiritually, cognitively, how that works.
[00:24:37] Speaker A: Yeah, that's an interesting question. And let me back up. I didn't have children with special needs. I did have a child that did have a, did need help in school a little bit more. So I don't know that, that they were on the special needs or disability area, but they did have whatever that is in place at school where they had extra time and extra other things.
[00:25:13] Speaker B: Well, you had, then you had, you had some empathy there and you had experience in a challenge where you had to do more than just some others might have to do to have your child get here she needs. Okay, so that's correct.
[00:25:25] Speaker A: So I did have a little bit of experience in that. While at the same time, you know, it was an interesting question. I, I, I don't know if I ever looked at it as, you know, do I want to get involved in that or not? I really just looked at it like, you know, is this, is this something that I, I enjoy? Right. Or is this something that's right for me? And, and certainly my, my current wife was at the time and still is, and, you know, she, you know, her son, you know, it was interesting. I, I remember in the beginning, you know, being very cautious and trying to understand a lot of things that are, that are just not explainable. Right. Really. And, you know, there were, it was, it was definitely interesting. But, but once I, I don't remember what the first thing was that, that I learned from Joey and the experience that I had where I realized, oh, you know, this, this is actually, he's teaching me almost as much as I'm teaching him. Right. He's benefiting me as much as I'm benefiting him. You know, he has the most positive attitude about everything, some of the worst things could possibly happen. And he's smiling and happy and moving on, you know, and, and he brings stuff with him from the past, for sure, and there are certain things that he doesn't ever let go of. But, but for the most part, his attitude is positive and happy and optimistic and, and it's really hard to find that in, in people in the world just in general.
So I don't remember the first time that, that I truly opened up and realized that I was getting as much out of him as he was out of me.
But that was, that was important.
[00:27:21] Speaker B: I love that. And how old is Joey now?
[00:27:24] Speaker A: He's 21. Yeah.
[00:27:25] Speaker B: And he's at work now. Tell us about what.
[00:27:27] Speaker A: Yeah, he's actually at work right now. This is very. Right, exactly. Right now.
[00:27:30] Speaker B: What's his responsibilities?
[00:27:32] Speaker A: So he works at a Go car wash. He is. He dries off the cars. He. One of his things. Right. People with special, people with autism, they have a thing. Right. He knows everything about cars. He can hear a car outside and tell you what year it was, what model it was just by sound sometimes. So he knows about cars, he knows about trucks, he knows about vehicles. So I don't know if it's his dream job, but he loves drying off cars. He comes home and he talks about the trucks that he washed. And so it's great. So it's perfect fit for him. And, you know, he was, he was wrapping cars in the past. He worked for a. So he's done a lot of things. Related cars. He loves cars. So. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:28:14] Speaker B: Will he be able to drive or does he drive or.
[00:28:18] Speaker A: So we've been through a few things with him about driving. And although the, the doctors and the therapists and the people that have performed the analysis of him said he could, he is. He has been approved to take classes and all that.
Sometimes his desire is to drive and sometimes it isn't. But the process is the same for Joey as it would be for everyone. So for him to go through the class and then take all those tests and do all that learning and all that, that's going to be. That's going to be as hard as, you know, just the, just the experience of, you know, when he starts to drive. You know, everyone gets into a fender bender every now and then, and everyone gets cut off by someone. And you know what's going to happen when you have to make a quick decision. So, so physically, is he capable of driving? Yes, I believe he can operate a vehicle.
[00:29:15] Speaker B: Okay, all right.
[00:29:16] Speaker A: Do I think. Does he. Do I think he'll ever drive and get a license because of all the other factors? I'm just not sure. I'm not sure yet.
[00:29:25] Speaker B: No, absolutely.
[00:29:26] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:29:26] Speaker B: I mean, it's, it's, it's interesting too, because.
And I'm not a fan of really the term high functioning, but. Because, yeah, others aren't. I don't like that. But Anyway, there's a, there's the whole spectrum. Yeah, there's even, there's even a spectrum with the high functioning. Right.
Because the, there's stuff that my son probably can do that Joey's unable to and vice versa. And I find that fascinating. And that's the human brain. And I, I just, I'd love to see more and more research on the human brain and what parts of the brain is, is causing maybe this. And is there a way to. I mean, they said there's no cure for autism. I get it. But, but with research and understanding the brain and what parts of the brain are functioning at a better rate than others and if there's a way, I don't know, I believe there's something out there that if we put the time and effort and money and the brain power and energy into researching the human brain for that. I mean, when you're hearing that, I mean, I'm in, I'm in New Jersey that 1 in 35 kids now have autism. I mean, that's crazy. Now there could be a lot of factors, more testing. I know way back when they more boys were diagnosed than women than girls because I'm learning that the women, the neurotypical brain for a woman, they can work on both, both hemispheres and for men and neurotypical and boys, it's one hemisphere. And so if you have a neuro diverse female, her brain's working just like the neurotypical female. So people don't think there's a difference. But when you have a male who can think both, like my son's able to like go back and forth. I mean his arts and sciences are through the roof on each, you know, the creativity and the numbers. So yeah, that there you can see the distinction between that, the behavior. So they get, they may get tested more, I don't know. But the numbers are going up for a reason. I'm sure there's multiple reasons. But the more research we do on the human brain, I think it's going to tell us a lot.
[00:31:31] Speaker A: Yeah. And I find it fascinating some of the things that Joey can do and some of the things that he struggles with. Like for instance, you know, we talk about driving. He can Uber no problem. He can order an Uber himself. He, you know, he can get where he needs to go. We don't have to worry about that. And he knows how to do that. And that's something that I just recently learned in the last year or two. He can do that. He's also, like I said, he's Great with cars. And he understands numbers as it relates to ages. So you know, if, if you said what year and what month you were in, instantly he'll know how old you are. He can say this person, you know, who, you know, if they were still alive, they would be this age. And like he's really good with that. Like crazy good with that. But like you give him a five dollar bill and he walks into a store and he's, he's not gonna understand how to get change. Even though year 500 might be $5 and whatever. It's just, it's interesting how his br. His mind works related to different things that are, that seem to me to be similar, but they're very different.
[00:32:33] Speaker B: Both have to do numbers, but the brain has to think differently. Correcting on the task. It's unbelievable. It is unbelievable.
[00:32:40] Speaker A: And I can't do age as fast as him, that's for sure.
[00:32:43] Speaker B: I don't see it as a disability per se. Yes, they can't do it. Unable to do certain things, whatever. But there's a uniqueness that we can learn from that's fascinating me. My son has so many skills that I'm like, oh my God, I wish I could do that. I mean he can watch a YouTube video once he started making wallets at a duct tape. I mean like, like, yeah, creative, customized. I mean it's unbelievable. So and so, so you're just finishing your first year. Congratulations with Joey's Journey.
I'm sure that the audience has captured the essence of Mitch Levinson and they're going to want to get in touch with you especially certainly people with children with autism and this whole travel concept which I love. So folks, please reach out to Mitch. There's two different ways, got two different websites. One is MitchLevinson.com that's really about leadership and all his life in doing the digital marketing stuff and leadership in general. And then the second one is Joey's Journey journeys.org so it's Joey's Journeys all one word dot org. You can find a lot of great information about, about the, the nonprofit that, that he's running and really the benefit to the community.
So you know, I could talk to you all day and I know we're going to talk a lot offline. Moving forward, I want to ask you two final questions. All right? You're sitting down with young 7 to 10 year old Mitch. You want to give him advice about life. What are you going to tell him? Mitch?
[00:34:15] Speaker A: Yeah. So for seven year old Mitch, what I would tell him is they're the most important thing is you. Right. Make sure you always do the right thing. Whatever you think is the right thing, that's what you need to do and stand by that and, and don't be afraid to take chances or risks, but make sure that you're always true to yourself and, and what you're doing you believe in. Don't, don't let anyone talk you out of it. That's what I would tell, that's what I would tell seven year old Mitch.
[00:34:44] Speaker B: I love that. All right, put a different hat on. You're now speaking with young businessman, young entrepreneur Mitch. And what kind of business advice are you going to give him?
[00:34:53] Speaker A: Yeah, it's almost the same thing as what I gave seven year old Mitch, but it's really more about, you know, be careful because not everyone is rooting for you. So make sure that you surround yourself with people that are going to root for you when you're not there. Right. When you're, when you're not in the room, they're going to talk positively about you and who you are and dig deep to those people to make sure that they are your trusted advisors and keep a small set of those trusted advisors around you at all time to talk with them about difficult decisions and, and again, stay true to yourself and stay true to what you think is right.
But make sure you have a good core group of, of people that are trusted advisors that will be there no matter what life throws at you.
[00:35:45] Speaker B: Love that. Love that. Definitely surround yourself with a trusting community.
[00:35:50] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:35:51] Speaker B: Well, Mitch, I want to thank you for coming on. Thank you for coming into my life. Adam Citron, thanks for introducing us. Keep doing what you're doing, Mitch. Wonderful human being and you're doing some wonderful things, helping a lot of people. So way to go. Keep it up.
[00:36:05] Speaker A: Thanks, Drew. I appreciate, appreciate you and everybody else out there.
[00:36:09] Speaker B: Take care of yourselves.
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