[00:00:06] Speaker A: Welcome to from caving in to crushing it, the podcast for those who find themselves immersed in adversity and choose to write their story instead of having others write it for them. I'm Drew Deraney, and I'm your host. Or Lee, I'm so glad you came on. It's really great to see you.
[00:00:25] Speaker B: Thank you for having me.
[00:00:27] Speaker A: Oh, it's my pleasure. It's my pleasure.
I'm very grateful you're in my life. And we've gotten to know each other very well over the last year or so, and your story is absolutely unbelievable. And you're very inspirational that you share your story to really strengthen other people. And so many people I've seen and heard really learn a lot from the way you carry yourself. So that's why I really wanted to have you on.
[00:00:55] Speaker B: Thank you.
[00:00:56] Speaker A: You're very welcome. So we all know that life is not linear.
We aren't where we are because we've always wanted to be right. Life throws us some curveballs that ends up taking us where we are. If you could go as far back as you feel comfortable to get to that moment that you realized there's a better way to live and kind of go into that moment and let us know a little about you.
[00:01:22] Speaker B: Well, thank you.
Yeah, it's a definitely loaded question.
It's a very loaded question.
How far can I go back? I think it's in my childhood, because I saw my parents struggle with money, and I also realized very early on, and I don't know how, but it could be instinctively or intuitively, that when I used to ask for money to go to a movie or whatever, my parents would say, well, we're not Rothschilds.
Do we have the face of a winner?
My father would spend money on lottery, and I would say, why do you buy so much lottery? He goes, well, we don't have the face of a winner. It was so many of those little things that I was like, oh, my God, lack of money, lack of opportunity, lack of all that stuff. And then they had the opportunity to have a business, and they didn't want to work hard at it. So they felt like, okay, we give up. So they give up too soon on too many places. And my parents changed jobs many times. And so I felt like, this is not where I want to live. I want to have a better life for myself, live, spend, do what I want when I want to do it. And I think that started then. I became a very young entrepreneur at the age of 14.
[00:02:46] Speaker A: It's impressive because most of us and I'll put myself in there, too. You know, more. Greater than 50% of our belief systems form by the age of seven years old, and we're on autopilot till we're 18, and our belief system is kind of handed to us, and then most of us don't push back. You pushed back at a young age. The entrepreneur spirit, where did that come from and what did you do with it?
[00:03:13] Speaker B: So early on? I had the taste of money, how to make money. I delivered newspapers. I used to do cold calling. Even at the age of 14, with my parents agreement, one of their friends had a calling center where we had to make calls, cold calling. So I started in that, and I also did it for my mom's boss. And I also used to put labels on products for a beauty product company.
So all these were like summer jobs, right? So I did that. I also delivered the newspapers and I babysat. So I got the taste of money, and making money was just a fun thing to do, right? You're a child. You're twelve years old. You're making all this money. I'm going to spend it on my things. But then something happened with my mom where she bought things for my brother to go to school. So we went to Walmart, right? It was a Walmart. It was called Kmart at the time. And so we went to Kmart. And I remember this scene vividly, so I can share it. My mom was buying a sweater for my brother for the new year, for the school year. And I was like, what about me? They were there for girls, too. They were like both colors. Like, they were reds and pinks and so on. And there were also browns and greens and blues.
And she said, well, you have your money, buy your own. And from that moment, I decided that I will not ask for money. I will make my own money, and I'll never ask again for anything. So from that age, I paid for my own stuff. I've never asked for anything.
And that was a real pivotal moment, if you think about it. What prompted me to even become more of a non entrepreneur? I'm going to make money because that was my driver point.
[00:05:06] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:05:06] Speaker B: At the age of 14, we also went to Wildwood, New Jersey, for vacation every year, right? And at the age of 16, I went with my parents. Again, it was a family vacation right after school ended. And while my parents used to go to the casinos and things like that, they would give us money to go to the arcades on the boardwalk.
[00:05:27] Speaker A: Sure.
[00:05:28] Speaker B: I took that money and I saved it. I didn't spend it on arcades and nonsense. But what I did was I went to look for a job. I went to look to see how I can get working papers. And at my age, they were giving those working papers for anybody that's under the age of 6018, because at the age of 18, you would have to go through immigration and all that stuff.
[00:05:50] Speaker A: Okay?
[00:05:50] Speaker B: So I rented a bike to go all the way to North Wildwood so I can get my working papers. And I got myself a job, and I got myself a place to stay for the rest of the summer. And then two days before my parents were leaving, back to go to Montreal, I told them that I'm not leaving with them. And they said, what? Right? Like my mother said, well, what are you going to do? And I said, well, right after breakfast, I will show you where I'm going to be living, where I'll be working, and that's how I'm going to stay here for the rest of the summer. And so it was. And they met my bosses.
I found myself a waitressing job, and the rest was history. I went back a couple of summers after that while I was going to college. And, yeah, that's how I started making lots of money.
[00:06:36] Speaker A: Good for you. And what I find intriguing is you built your own opportunity to gain confidence, because if you had stopped at mom saying, you can't have money because you have your own, because you're working at it, you could have easily said, well, he doesn't work, and fallen into that.
So I give you credit for that personally. Your relationship with your family, how many brothers and sisters did you have?
[00:07:06] Speaker B: I have one brother.
[00:07:07] Speaker A: Older or younger?
[00:07:08] Speaker B: He's younger by a year and a half.
[00:07:10] Speaker A: Wow. How's your relationship with him?
[00:07:12] Speaker B: Oh, it's great. I mean, we've been through some of the same things with our parents and so on, so we have a very close bond. He took another route in his life, and that's also. I brought him to Wildwood so he can make money. He brought his two friends, and until today, some of them still work in Wildwood, but they own stores. They made a name and a business for themselves, but they all blame me.
[00:07:35] Speaker A: Well, you know what? That's good blame to have, because you gave them the drive and people will emulate the behavior of others. I'm sure he looked up to you.
I know that mindset mastery is one of your things.
To get to the point where you realize that you may need a shift in mindset, many of us need to have a two x four hit upside the head for us to realize that I know I have. How did you get into that area where you realized that you can control your reality?
[00:08:12] Speaker B: Well, that's a great question. Thank you for that. As an avid know, I love self help, and I was introduced to self help through the Tony Robbins's of the world and so on. When Tony Robbins was just starting out, I got introduced to his programs and I got introduced to Deepak Chopra, Steve Covey, all of these guys. And I followed some of them. And after a while, there was something there, and I felt there was something there, and I wanted to just get over my own, my story, what I've been through, and I will share with you what I've been through. It's just a pivotal thing where I was in property management for so long, and one day I got asked to speak at a women's shelter, and I was speaking also in the world of property management, but why would I speak at a women's shelter? That's what I asked my friend. I said, what? I said, what do you want me to speak about property management? She's like, no, I want you to tell your story. And I said, oh, no, that's not happening at all.
And she said, oh, come on.
Do you have an annoying friend? Because I have some annoying friends. Do you have annoying friends?
[00:09:32] Speaker A: They won't stop it.
[00:09:34] Speaker B: She called every single day for like three weeks. Are you going to do it? Are you going to do it? Are you going to do it? I said, after three weeks, I said, liz, I don't understand why you're asking me. There's other people that speak on the subject matter you want me to speak about. And she, you know, you have this bubbly personality. Everywhere you go, people hug you. People who don't know you hug you. You're like a social butterfly and you live a lifestyle that most people dream about. I want you to come and give these women hope. And I said, okay, what do I have to do to get you off my phone? At this point, I was, like, even more resistant to not doing this.
And so finally I relented and a couple of months went by and I hired a coach. I hired a speaking coach because I was speaking in the realm of property management, but I didn't know a thing about speaking about my story, nor did I ever thought about looking at Tony Robbins and the gang to think that I can do this right. It was not even in my horizon, right. But I hired a coach to teach me. And then I got to speak at this women's shelter a few months later, and there was not one dry eye in the place. There were about 170 people there. And once I got off the stage, things were weird for me because I was not used to anything that happened next. And the one thing that happened, the first thing that happened is that people were hugging me and thanking me for being there. Thank you for sharing. Thank you for giving me hope. And that started brewing in my brain because I never had that in property management. It was always SMR and my board of directors and my condominium. It was such an annoying type thing where here I am showered with love and appreciation that I never lived before. The second thing that happened, it was one lady that came up to me, and she was crying profusely, and she said, thank you. You don't understand. And I said, no, I do understand, sweetheart. You just need to breathe. Because she was really hyperventilating, and back and forth we went. At one point, she yelled at me, no, you don't understand. And I was taken aback because this was my first motivational speech. Now I'm laughing, but I was not laughing at the time. I was so taken aback that I didn't realize what was going on. But everybody had quieted down around us, so everybody was listening in on what's going on. And she pulled a piece of paper out of her pocket, and she showed it to me, and she said, you see here? This is how I was going to kill myself this morning. In fact, I don't remember driving from my house to the shelter. As you can see, that's not where I was going.
But I want to live, and I want you to show me how.
[00:12:22] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:12:25] Speaker B: Drew. I was in Niagara Falls. I was crying. I didn't know how to hold myself.
I have goosebumps still telling you this.
[00:12:33] Speaker A: I just got goosebumps, too, five years ago.
[00:12:36] Speaker B: And so it was really euphoric, in a way. And to tell you my story really quickly in 18 seconds, is that I was actually a beaten up child. I was molested four times before the age of 14. I was raped three times before the age of 22, twice gang raped nine months apart, left for dead. And I was also married to a very abusive husband, both mentally and physically. And as a result of that, I gained a morbid amount of weight. I was 428 pounds at my heaviest. I had to have four abortions because of that. And for those of you who are against it, I am against it. It's just a decision that I had to make really quickly at the age that I was and the way that it happened. Oh, my God. And I need to say that now.
And this is where I was. So it was kind of a moment where. It was a pivotal moment in my life where I realized that what I was doing in my life, such as property management, was no longer serving the greater good and the bigger purpose for me, which I believe that we, each and every one of us, come into this planet, into this world. Our soul, our body is just a vehicle. I believe in that. And I also believe that God put us here to experience everything. So we can take it as a, oh, my God, what happened to me? And woe is me. Or we can say, okay, what can I learn from this? Right?
[00:14:06] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:14:06] Speaker B: In my Mindset mastery program, I show people how to understand that these type of gifts are wrapped in sandpaper. So what can we find about it? Right? So I went through that story because I probably am here to make a difference in other people's lives and to inspire others through it. Right?
[00:14:25] Speaker A: Yes.
Jeez, there's so much here to unpack. Orly, you talk about gifts and we talk about resistance, right? We resist a lot of things in our lives because we're trying to protect ourselves. Your friend trying to get you to speak at the women's shelter. And we talked about God. It was almost like that was God's voice and message coming through her. To get you onto a stage, knowing that you're going to find your purpose once you do that, and that's powerful.
[00:15:03] Speaker B: And to add that, that's a great point that you're making, because to add to that, I was really starting to hate property management. I really didn't like it anymore. I wrote two books on the subject matter. I changed the law in the state of Florida. I did so many great things, but I hated it. At one point, it was already getting to know, and I believe God, the universe, whatever you guys believe in, sometimes it nudges you. It kind of puts something like a stick in your wheel and something is happening there in your life and you don't pay attention, and then it punches you and it does another thing that will throw you off. And what happened to me was that my girls in my office stole $84,000 out of my bank account.
So another thing happens and another thing happens until you're pushed to the ground and you have no other choice but to listen.
[00:15:57] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:15:58] Speaker B: And that was my listening part where, okay, I'll do this. Right. Very resistant, but very. Also understanding that there must be a message around this, but not really wanting to acknowledge it.
[00:16:14] Speaker A: Absolutely. Now, do you think you get off the stage speaking at the women's shelter and you're getting the hugs and the accolades from the women?
I know we don't do these if thens. If thens. If the woman who was going to kill herself didn't approach you and pretending that didn't happen, do you think you would have gotten to where you are now with just the hugs and stuff like that? Or did you need that bigger nudge from that woman? Was she sent from God?
[00:16:47] Speaker B: I'm going to answer it from my own experience.
[00:16:52] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:16:53] Speaker B: But I'm going to also answer it in a general way.
[00:16:56] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:16:56] Speaker B: Because life will throw things at you, as you said earlier, but a pivotal moment in your life has to be substantial, right? People, until they get bankrupt, they don't understand the meaning, the value of money.
[00:17:16] Speaker A: True.
[00:17:16] Speaker B: People that until they get divorced, they don't listen to their spouses or they don't see the signs or it's not that they weren't there. They were all. Well, all along, they were there, but we didn't listen and we didn't want to acknowledge. And so this happens to us through life. And that's the pivotal point, that you can either take and make it a positive change in your life, or you can take and go into drugs and alcohol and do whatever to erase it from your mind for a short period of time, and then you have to rebuild yourself in order to achieve anything. And so people don't need to get there. It's like when somebody dies that is close to us and we kind of think, you know what? Life is precious. Life is too short. Right? How many times have you heard life is too short? How many people actually use life as it is short as you will die tomorrow? How many people live for today, happy today, blissful today, abundant today, instead of waiting for tomorrow where they will not, is not, which is not promised. Right. So when you go into that question where you say, if it didn't happen, would you have still have a pivotal moment? I would have had a pivotal moment, but maybe not that day.
[00:18:35] Speaker A: Exactly right.
[00:18:36] Speaker B: It may not going to happen no matter what. So that's where I meant by for me personally and general rule, it has to be substantial.
[00:18:46] Speaker A: It has to be substantial and you have to be willing to make a change, because if you weren't ready to make that change, you may not have done it. A lot of people miss those signs.
[00:19:00] Speaker B: Well, really, I wouldn't have made the change then. I would have made a change maybe later, and maybe I would have lost maybe 1020 years of my life.
[00:19:10] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:19:11] Speaker B: Looking for the next thing. Or I would have continuously suffered different types of pivotal moments where I could take advantage of or that I could just continue in the way many people are still dormant to that, where you can't tell. You can't take them out of it. They like to go to the work.
They have a job, they like to do their job. They like to get their salary, they like to have their place to live, whether it's renting or buying a house. And then they rent a car or lease a car or buy a car, and then they just live life with payments. Payments, making ends meet, having plenty of credit cards, building their credit, having a credit, no credit. It doesn't really matter. They just live that life until they die.
[00:19:59] Speaker A: Yeah.
And you say something often, you don't know what. You don't know.
That's one of my favorite things that you say, and now I say it, and it's true. It's true. We don't know what we don't know, and you got to give yourself that opportunity. And speaking of opportunities, you were already a very well known public speaker in a specific industry, correct? After that event at the women's shelter, how did you pivot and then start speaking in other arenas? How difficult was that to kind of cross industry lines?
[00:20:31] Speaker B: Well, what I realized that day with the woman that wanted to kill herself, what I realized that I have a bigger purpose. So I didn't think in my head, oh, wow, this was cool. It was more like, wow, I just saved someone's life.
[00:20:47] Speaker A: Right?
[00:20:48] Speaker B: So, in either of my book public speakers, you're not all that. Or the mindset mastery, book twelve powers we hold within either one of these books tells my story. As Chris, who was with me that day, would tell the story, he tells the story of how this whole day happened, right. And at the end of it, he tells the story about, we're in the car, we're driving away, and he tells me to write a book. And that's what he says, right. That's the story in the book that I'm going to write a book, but I'm going to tell you the true story of what happened. I was driving away from that event, and I was crying, and I was holding the wheel, and I was saying, screw property management. This is what I want to do for the rest of my life. I don't want to do property management anymore. Screw it.
That's what's really happening in my car while I'm driving and crying, and I realized right then and there that all these messages of yucky feeling that I didn't like property management anymore that were happening for the past year before that event, I was like, oh, you know what? Okay, maybe there's another know, and there's another way. It must be another way. It has to be another way. Right?
[00:22:04] Speaker A: Right.
[00:22:04] Speaker B: And that's where I went. And I was a Tony Robbins groupie. Like, I would travel the world after wherever he was. Right. Quick quiz story that would be really cool for this. And exactly why.
[00:22:16] Speaker A: Sure.
[00:22:18] Speaker B: I was in San Diego at a Tony Robbins event, and, of course, you meet amazing people at these events. They're fantastic.
[00:22:24] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:22:25] Speaker B: And about ten days later, I was in Paris, France, at a Tony Robbins event.
Right.
[00:22:32] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:22:33] Speaker B: And so I'm there, and I walk into the auditorium, and I see the same people that I met in San Diego and the auditorium. And my first thought, and I'll be very polite, saying this first thought was, what the heck are they doing here? And then my second thought was, what the heck are you doing here? Didn't you get the memo? Like, don't you think you've had enough of learning, learning the same thing? Are you going to start implementing it into your life and start living life? And so I went back to Florida, where I was living at the time, and I just realized that, you know what? I know what to do. And I met with a mentor of mine. He's still my mentor till this day, God bless him. I call him Sir Martin. He's a 33 degree mason, as well as he was knighted by the queen, and he has really great accolades. And so I called him up. He's like, hey, you want to have lunch? And I'm like, oh, for sure. So we're going for lunch, and he does this. He's an older man, and he sits back, and nothing excites him. He's like, so, how have you been doing? And I said, you know what, martin? I have been traveling the world doing all these seminars and webinars and buying the books and reading the books and doing the cds and dvds and cassettes at the time I started was cassette.
[00:23:51] Speaker A: Right.
[00:23:52] Speaker B: And so, yeah, I'm aging myself. So I was listening to the tapes, and I said, I'm just tired of doing it all. I'm stopping all this now, right now. And I know that there's something missing in all these seminars and everything that I'm learning, and I'm going to find out what that is, and I'm going to write a program that actually does that.
[00:24:14] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:24:14] Speaker B: And he said, okay, dear, when you have it, call me. He was very condescending, but at the same time, lovingly.
And he doesn't even believe I'll do it, right?
[00:24:27] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:24:28] Speaker B: So six months later, I called him up and I said, sir Martin, I wrote a program that I think will change people's life immediately. Like from the first session.
[00:24:39] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:24:40] Speaker B: And he said, okay, come to my house tomorrow morning, 08:00 a.m. And I'm like, okay. So he's the kind of guy you don't send an email to. So I had to print the whole thing.
[00:24:51] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:24:52] Speaker B: So I printed it and I brought it to his house at 08:00 sharp. And he took it. I put it on his desk and he took it. And he's like, just one page at a time going through it. And I'm thinking, oh, my God, we're going to be here all day. This guy is going through every single page.
Well, 2 hours later, as I'm sitting there, calmly and very peacefully and patiently, he puts it down and he says, okay, I have a few questions for you. And I'm like, okay, shoot, I'm in. All right. So now he's asking me questions of the Sort of, well, how did you find out this? How do you know this will work? How do you know this is going to work? Where did you get this kind of information? What if? What if? What if, what if? And we were going on and on. And if, you know, Drew, when you're on full adrenaline, you don't know the concept of time. Thirsty, hungry, nothing. You're on full adrenaline. Nothing matters. So after so much of drilling, he says to me, do you know what time it is? And I thought that was, like, the stupid question on the platform.
He looks at me, dead serious. So I'm looking outside and it's kind of dark. And I said, well, it must be.
I don't know. It's dark outside. So it's 08:00 at night. I don't know what time it is. He goes, orly, it's 02:00 in the morning. Holy the next days. We've been at it for that long.
[00:26:16] Speaker A: Oh, my.
[00:26:17] Speaker B: And he says to me, if you came to me to get my blessing on this program, you have my blessing. It's a great program. Because all I did all day was try to convince you that you don't have your information, but you answered every question with certainty and determination.
Not only certainty, but I think it's conviction. Conviction that this is it. Then you don't need me this is really great.
And so I went home crying again. Right. Because the adrenaline has left my body.
[00:26:51] Speaker A: Oh, boy.
[00:26:51] Speaker B: And when your adrenaline leaves your body, you cry. That's the way it works. And so I'm driving, and I was driving, and when I drive or when I'm laughing or crying, my cheeks are so big, I squint and I see nothing.
I had to pull over as I was crying. At the same time, I had to pull over to calm myself down and then drove home.
But I didn't do anything with that program. I just did absolutely nothing with it until 2006 or seven.
[00:27:26] Speaker A: Really?
[00:27:28] Speaker B: It took a few years before I did something with it. Yeah.
[00:27:31] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:27:32] Speaker B: And in 2012. Sorry, ten.
As I started also my business of public speaking coaching, I also started my mindset, mastery coaching with ceos and cfos of Fortune 500 and Fortune 100 companies because of a friend of mine who brought me to new York. And that's how it all grew. Yeah.
[00:27:53] Speaker A: Wow. Well, I could talk to you all day.
There's another piece of your life. You're a very modest person.
Aren't you involved in maybe a nonprofit that might be kind of important that you may want to mention?
[00:28:09] Speaker B: Yeah, sure.
I told you my story.
[00:28:13] Speaker A: I'm fascinated about this.
[00:28:16] Speaker B: I was not trafficked, but the human trafficking, sex and labor slavery with children is really. And because of everything that I've been through in my story, I don't think I would ever experience what it's like to be trafficked, because that's horrible on its own. But I do know what it's like not to have a voice, not to have somebody listening when you're crying and screaming for help.
[00:28:43] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:28:44] Speaker B: And there are many beautiful organizations that are bringing awareness to human trafficking. Even legislators are now looking at it, but they can't do anything about it because the deep state and government officials are doing it. They're profiting from it. They're making money. It's $150,000,000,000 industry. And so in beginning of 2021, I decided to start a nonprofit called urmylight.org. You are my light. Like the bulb, the light.
And we're building healing centers for rescued victims of human trafficking, sex and labor slavery, because those who are rescuing them don't have anywhere to take them. They can't put them in foster care because that's where it starts. They can't put them in shelters because there's no room and there's no money. So these kids have, maybe after they get rescued in the real world, they have maybe a seven day span to live before they die. They kill themselves or they drug overdose, whatever that may be. And according to legislators and people who have spoken to some of these rescued victims, they're claiming that it's two years ban before they're dumb. They have gotten so abused in so many ways that you and I cannot even fathom that their body will be shot.
It won't be able to recuperate what they've been through.
[00:30:23] Speaker A: Right.
[00:30:24] Speaker B: One of my friends who was trafficked, her trafficker, tried to put a branch in her.
There's so many things that I can say. It's horrible. And you have no idea the sickness of the people. Right? And he was a worker in a hospital. He was just a nurse.
[00:30:44] Speaker A: Unbelievable.
[00:30:45] Speaker B: And he was married with children.
[00:30:47] Speaker A: Oh, my God.
[00:30:48] Speaker B: And he had her and another girl.
So you don't know, but it's right next door to you. And unfortunately, here in America, it's a huge pandemic, if you will call it a pandemic or epidemic. People just don't want to think about it. They don't want to see it. They don't want to hear. I get it. I understand. It's horrific. You don't want to get involved, but get involved. You know what? Go to. You are my light and give a donation. Go to other organizations. Give a donation. Donate of your stuff.
These shelters and the people who are helping these kids need clothing, need backpacks, need brushes, hairbrushes, toothbrushes, whatever. Soap.
The things that we kind of take for granted.
[00:31:34] Speaker A: Take a lot for granted. Yes.
[00:31:35] Speaker B: Right. We go to the dollar store, we can buy another $20 worth of stuff and send it to someone. So getting involved, Americans have this thing about thinking, well, this is not my problem, and it's not really my responsibility. Well, I believe differently. I believe it's all of our responsibility. We live next door to some of these predators. We like to report sex offenders as soon as they leave jail, even if they're recuperated, we have to name them and they have to be on the sex offender list and so on. Well, why don't we do that with traffickers?
I believe in killing an eye for an eye, literally. But I'm not the president, nor am I any public official, nor am I a senator or anything like that as far as political.
So we need to get involved with our communities, we need to get involved with our politicians. We need to get involved to let them know, hey, you got to do something about this.
[00:32:39] Speaker A: Yes, absolutely.
[00:32:40] Speaker B: And I don't think we will stop it completely because now the cartels are in on it, the cartels. Now, why would they even push drugs on anybody? They don't have to. They can just have people and sell them over and over and over again. They don't have to transport it. They don't have to bring it into our country. Although we have kids are being brought to our country to be sex slaves or any other slavery you can think of. And that's happening right now. And I know a lot of people have brought light into this subject, and some people don't want to believe that it exists here. And that's okay. To each his own. Everybody gets it when they get it, and that's it.
[00:33:20] Speaker A: Well, you're an amazing person and you're providing a service. The aftercare piece, that is often neglected in many arenas in this country, whether it's the military, police, the aftercare piece is so important. And I thank you so much for being that person who has that light and is shining it brightly.
[00:33:42] Speaker B: Thank you so much.
[00:33:44] Speaker A: You're welcome, of course. So, two final questions.
So, Orley, you're sitting down with seven to ten year old Orly, and you want to give her advice about life. What are you going to tell her?
[00:34:00] Speaker B: Listen to your gut. Listen to your intuition. Listen to your gut. It will never fail you.
Things will happen, bad, good, no matter what. Keep your chin up and move forward from it. Put it behind you. The past is in the past. Put it behind you. Don't bring it.
And never, ever give up on your goals, dreams and aspirations.
[00:34:29] Speaker A: That's beautiful, Orly. All right, I'll ask you the last question. You're putting a different hat on now. You are sitting with young Orly, the young businesswoman entrepreneur, ready to become a force in the business world. What advice, business wise, are you going to tell her?
[00:34:45] Speaker B: The first advice it would be what my father always told me is, stop sharing everything with everybody.
Stop telling everybody what you're doing.
In my family, they believe in the evil eye or jealousy and stuff like that. So kind of jinxing it when you tell people what you're doing and how you're living and whatever. I don't know about that, but I will tell her to stop talking. Okay, and listen more.
The other thing is, don't ever let anybody tell you you can't do something because I've been told so many times, you're not going to make it.
It's not for you. And I never listened to that. And I would tell her never to listen to that. And for those I did listen, I felt like I missed out. And I probably did. And so those two things are probably the biggest thing I would say.
[00:35:40] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:35:41] Speaker B: And the last piece is save money, learn about financing, learn how to deal with money. Prepare yourself for your life to always have what you need so you can never depend on anyone. That's also a big component that I would tell her as a young entrepreneur.
[00:36:01] Speaker A: That's a huge point.
You count on yourself, not on others, to write your story for you. Orlea, this has been wonderful. Well, the audience has definitely gotten a sense of the essence of orly amore.
More people are going to want to get in touch with you. How do they do that?
[00:36:20] Speaker B: Well, they can go to my website, meetorlyamore.com. Meetorlyamor.com, and get on my calendar for a 20 minutes brief discovery call. I like to call it because then we learn about each other and see where we're at and how I can support. And they can literally find me on Instagram.
TikTok, it's all I am. Orliamore. I-A-M-O-R-L-Y-A-M-O-R on LinkedIn, all of those social media platforms, even on Facebook, they can find me. It's not hard to find me. Google me. You'll find me.
[00:37:00] Speaker A: Orly, I'm very grateful you're in my life and we're friends. And I thank you for coming on. You're an amazing human being and people should definitely get in touch with you. And thanks again for coming on.
[00:37:12] Speaker B: Thank you so much for having me, Drew. Appreciate it.
[00:37:15] Speaker A: Absolutely. Take care, everybody. Be well.
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