[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign, the podcast for those who find themselves immersed in adversity and choose to write their story instead of having others write it for them. I'm Drew Duraney and I'm your host. Today's guest is Jeff Pearson. Jeff Pearson is a speaker, author, business owner, and TV host.
When Jeff was two weeks old, it was confirmed that he had hydrocephalus and underwent his first brain and abdominal surgery.
Over the years, he has had many similar surgeries, including seven brain surgeries, each with its own set of challenges and victories. Despite these challenges, Jeff traveled the world with Un up with People, got married, raised three children, worked as a private investigator, and now is the executive director of Hydro with Hope, a non profit organization designed to provide tangible resources for families affected by hydrocephalus, and the host of two TV shows. The first one he launched is called Invisible Condition and it airs twice per Week on e360tv.
Invisible condition is a show that features amazing individuals who are living and thriving despite living with a medical condition you can't see from the outside.
The second show is called Six Degrees of Impact and is about the impact of the people behind the story, the ones who unknowingly changed everything. We're showing that no one is as far from purpose, progress, or possibility as they think.
Through Hydra with Hope speaking and TV shows, Jeff spreads the message that, first, you are not alone. Second, there is always hope. And third, life does not have to be perfect to be amazing. Jeff and Katherine live in Colorado Springs with their three almost grown children, Elizabeth, Nick, and Kasia.
Enjoy the show. Jeff, good to see you.
[00:02:10] Speaker B: Good to see you. It's been a minute.
[00:02:11] Speaker A: It's been a minute, man. Right before the record button. So it's good to see you.
[00:02:15] Speaker B: Right?
Yeah. Yeah, you too.
[00:02:18] Speaker A: And you know, so when. Whenever I do this, I always like to thank the person who introduced us. So. Mike Wiener, thank you so much for the introduction to Jeff Pearson. You and NRG were gracious to have him on the short list of people who you thought I should meet. Uh, so thank you for that.
[00:02:36] Speaker B: Yes, Mike's awesome.
[00:02:38] Speaker A: Yeah, he is awesome. Um, in the beginning of this, I always talk about how when we're younger, we're taught that life is linear. We're taught, and, you know, it's from our parents, our family, and it's not malicious. They want it to be that way for us. And for the most part, you know, our life is linear. It is that straight path until something happens. Ultimately, an external circumstance comes and it happens to all of us. Is a different Time in our life, it gets in between one of those letters, A plus B plus C. And that straight line now becomes more circuitous route. When that happens, that's when adversity rears its ugly head. And when that happens, there could be three types of men to address that adversity. I say man number one is the man who has so many blind spots, he doesn't even notice the adversity. He lives life on autopilot. He just lives the life people told him to. He doesn't make any changes that I certainly do not have. Man number one on this show. Man number two, on the other hand, sees the adversity, yet he says, I'm the victim, Life's doing it to me. He blames everybody else. No accountability.
He makes no changes because he figures life is what it is, it's set in stone, and he goes through life without any changes. And on his deathbed, he's got a ton of regrets. I don't have man number two on the show. I have man number three or Jeff Pearson on the show. Man number three sees the adversity. He's got a heightened self awareness. And he finally says, I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired.
This adversity is not a barrier. It's an opportunity for me to do something different, take massive action and become a stronger man on the other side.
So, Jeff, for the audience, reach back as far as you need to for that defining moment, whether it was the tap on the shoulder, the whisper in the ear, or like I needed the 2x4 upside my head.
And that transformed you from either man number one or two or both, to the man you are today and how that impacted you personally and professionally.
[00:04:30] Speaker B: Yeah, great question, man. Thank you. And I'm usually the guy that's a really tough nut to crack that needs the ham, hammer, chisel, 2x4, all the things.
However, in this case, with that question, I will go all the way back to the. One of the first memories I have of my parents talking to me about, you know, why I was different. And. And they could have gone two different routes. They could have said, you know, because I've had. I've had 15 surgeries, I've had seven brain surgeries. I've had, like, we've. This condition I was born with has. Has wreaked havoc on parts of my life. It's not, you know, I'm not going to lie. It's been crazy the last 10 or 12 years, thankfully, way back, you know, I. Probably kindergarten or something. Maybe where My parents could have said, jeff, you're sick. You. We need to keep you in a bubble. We need to keep you under wraps. You're.
[00:05:21] Speaker A: You.
[00:05:21] Speaker B: You need that special education plan. You're not going to learn well. You need to, you know, all the things they could have gone down that route and been where very, very cautious and very, very, you know, overly cautious. But what they did was said. What they said to me was, jeff, you're a normal kid every once in a while. Yeah, you've had a few surgeries. Every once in a while, you might have to have another one.
Go do your thing. Okay. Yeah, you gotta have brain surgery every once in a while. So please don't play soccer or football or anything that intentionally bangs your head against things. Let's be smart, but go live your life. So I was a skateboarding kid. I was a snow. I still snowboard 30 years later to this day. I love snowboarding, tennis, sports, music, singing, band, all the things. And so that was probably that defining moment of. Of.
Okay, I can. Okay, cool. I don't have to worry about anything. Great, let's do it. Let's move forward then. And that is the underlying message that I've carried with me for, you know, 48 years now is, is that I. I can do whatever I need to do, whatever I want to do, because, you know, God is my strength, and I don't have to worry about, you know, sick. I don't have to be the sick kid. So that's probably the. That was probably the first time I remember hearing that.
[00:06:42] Speaker A: I love that. The support that you had from your parents, because that's a very formative age. How old were you at that time?
[00:06:50] Speaker B: Not even sure. I. I don't even remember the exact moment or the exact age or anything like that. I just remember that was instilled in me very young. So.
[00:06:59] Speaker A: Yeah, good. Good for them to instill that, because a lot of times when parents get a diagnosis for their child, they allow the child to be defined by the diagnosis. And then there are some parents who don't allow that to happen. They don't put the label on. On the child, because labels mean limits. And thank goodness for your. Thank God for your parents, but they. They did not put limits on you, and you're here today to be thriving, my friend.
So. So as you got older, older, do you recall, like, the first time you had to have that surgery? And did that change your approach in life or what you thought about yourself?
[00:07:42] Speaker B: You know, I remember. I remember surgeries in my childhood. I Remember a couple of eye surgeries I had in elementary school? I remember. And these were all because of the condition I was born with. This was all side effects, craziness caused by it. Because the condition that I was born with requires brain surgery. And so when you go poking around in the brain, you. You can affect other things, too.
[00:08:04] Speaker A: And what is the condition?
[00:08:07] Speaker B: The name of the condition is hydrocephalus is what I was born with. Is hydrocephalus one of those basically conditions.
[00:08:12] Speaker A: We talk about that. No.
[00:08:13] Speaker B: Yeah. Loosely translated, water on the brain. Basically. One of the. One of the ventricles is built into the brain. Everybody's brain is producing fluid all the time, and there's ventricles built in that drain, that fluid where it's supposed to go, and it, you know, just kind of a perfect system. Well, one of those ventricles blocked for me when I was born. And so at the. You know, the common treatment is to do brain surgery and drill a hole in the skull and access that fluid with a shunt. And that shunt kind of drains the fluid somewhere else it's supposed to. So it can reabsorb and kind of does that.
Does the work of. Of what most people's brain does on its own.
[00:08:50] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:08:50] Speaker B: And so, yeah, so it was.
But, yeah, the first time I remember that surgery was 18 years old. So I had one at 2 weeks old. I had. That was the first one. And I had one at six months old. But the first one of those major brain surgeries was at 18 years old right after high school graduation.
And I mean, it did. I mean, it laid me out for a few days, but it was. It was not that. I mean, you know, you're young, you're limber, you're. You know, it didn't really affect me too much. In fact, about eight months later, I hit the road and went and traveled the world with a music group for a year. So I. Which probably made my parents really nervous. You know, you just had brain surgery in your head heading out around the world.
[00:09:30] Speaker A: But those cell phones around that time.
[00:09:34] Speaker B: No, it's stories all day long about crazy stuff that happened that. That year that.
Yeah. So no cell phones, no social media, nothing. Man, they cut me loose. I went across the country, went over to Europe. I was. I mean, it was. I was everywhere.
They had letters. I wrote letters.
[00:09:56] Speaker A: Fashioned letter. Okay. Oh.
[00:09:58] Speaker B: So anyway, so, yeah, that was the.
Actually remember. And, you know, I didn't really think much of it because of that mindset that was instilled in me of this is Surgery. God's got you. Either you're gonna wake up and see us.
You're gonna wake up and see Jesus. It's all good. So doctor's good. He's got you. We'll see you on the other side. You know, so and so that's how. It's how my attitude has been going into every surgery I've had, so.
[00:10:26] Speaker A: Wow. Now, where were you born and raised?
[00:10:28] Speaker B: Fort Collins, Colorado, about an hour north of Denver.
[00:10:32] Speaker A: Okay, and where are you now?
[00:10:33] Speaker B: I am about an hour south of Denver. Colorado Springs.
[00:10:36] Speaker A: So when. When you've had subsequent brain surgeries, you've gone to the same location.
[00:10:43] Speaker B: It's changed over the years. I. So I've had four of those brain surgeries in the last 12 years. So I had two back to back within 24 hours in 2014.
That one was done in Denver, and then I had one in 2018 and one in 2021, and those last two were done in Colorado Springs.
[00:11:01] Speaker A: Okay, so how prevalent is that condition? Condition?
[00:11:08] Speaker B: Yeah. Hydrocephalus is ridiculously common.
I know it's invisible, and I know you're looking at me going, no way. He's had seven brain surgeries. But it's. But it is very, very, very common, and it is very invisible unless there's other, like, other crazy co conditions with it, which sometimes happens. But hydrocephalus itself is rid. Closely common. It ha. It affects about one out of every 800 babies born in the US so that's. Yeah. So that's like 400,000 plus babies born of it every single year, every 15 minutes in this country alone.
Somebody is going under for surgery in an or somewhere in the country to treat hydrocephalus. It is prevalent, so it's. But it's invisible, and there's just not a ton of funding for it, and so you don't hear a lot about it.
So.
[00:11:59] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:12:00] Speaker B: But it is common.
[00:12:01] Speaker A: Okay. All right. Well, it's good to know that there are caregivers and out there who can care for this.
[00:12:07] Speaker B: I mean, there is, and they're awesome. And so, by the way, to put that in perspective, if you have. I have what, 1500 followers on Facebook. So if you have a thousand followers, a thousand friends, whatever. If you have a thousand friends on Facebook, probably at least one or two of them has hydrocephalus.
[00:12:25] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:12:26] Speaker B: So think about that. You know, just absolutely.
[00:12:28] Speaker A: No, absolutely.
[00:12:29] Speaker B: Absolutely crazy, right?
[00:12:30] Speaker A: It is. It is. So after you got back from traveling the world, now you play a musical instrument. You said you went with a band. What do You.
[00:12:39] Speaker B: So I. Yeah, I mean, my. My wife and I actually met in seventh grade band class. That was one of the directions my parents sent me was, hey, how about not football? How about bad? You know, how about not soccer? How about choir? You know? And so.
So, yeah, I started playing clarinet in seventh grade, and, man, did I want to quit halfway through, but they wouldn't let me. My mom's like, nope, you're going to finish the year.
So I said, okay. Well, during that first year in seventh grade, I met Catherine, who played the flute and show. I got to stare at her the whole class because the band is. It's arranged that the clarinets are here, the fruits, flutes are there, right across. So it was great.
So finally got the courage up to introduce myself to her. And.
And we've been, you know, we. So we met 12 years old in seventh grade band class and, you know, we've been married 26 years now. And it's. It's awesome. But that's.
Yeah. So that's.
I'm sorry, I totally lost track of where we were going there.
[00:13:36] Speaker A: I know.
[00:13:36] Speaker B: A question I kind of got off.
[00:13:38] Speaker A: Yeah. Because. No, you know where I was going to go with this? Because I want. I asked you about the instrument you played because you went on that.
[00:13:44] Speaker B: Oh, right.
[00:13:45] Speaker A: With a band. Now you say you met your. Your. Your wife.
[00:13:48] Speaker B: So I. So I never took the clarinet with me to travel. No, that was, that was singing. I. I did get into choir in high school and. And that was what I traveled the world with. It was a group called Up With People and it was. It's disbanded. So like now, like about a year ago or last year or this year, but it was around for 50, 60 years. It was an awesome organization that traveled around the world and spread cultural awareness and through like, kind of a musical show.
So we traveled all over, had semis of equipment following us and three tour buses.
[00:14:18] Speaker A: And that's wonderful.
[00:14:19] Speaker B: It was awesome.
[00:14:20] Speaker A: It's a shame it's not around anymore.
[00:14:22] Speaker B: It's not. I know. You can go and you can still look. Look it up and like, you can see there's 40, 50 years of shows and legacy there that you can check it out. But yeah, it has sadly, you know, closed down. But yeah, boy.
[00:14:37] Speaker A: All right, well, I know. So now let's get back to your. Your elementary school sweetheart, which I love. I love that because you just hear about the high school, sweeth. Now you got the elementary school.
[00:14:47] Speaker B: Yeah. Middle school, right?
[00:14:49] Speaker A: Middle school. Yeah, middle school. I always mix that up.
[00:14:52] Speaker B: That's right.
[00:14:53] Speaker A: And so now, if you say so, when did she get involved? The first time you had to go through a surgery because it was a surprise, like a shock to her system.
[00:15:05] Speaker B: Right.
[00:15:05] Speaker A: You had to go through that. So go into that for a little bit.
[00:15:09] Speaker B: It really was, man, she. So growing up together in junior high and high school and college and all that stuff, like, she, she knew I had certain. The only surgery she saw me go through was that one right after senior year. But she was going off to college. I was, you know, graduate. We were all. It was all kind of that hectic high school graduation, get ready for college thing. So she didn't really pay that close of attention to what was going on. She came over to the house and said hi and visited and stuff, but she didn't really know what was going on really. It was not until my, my next surgery. So that was when I was 18 in 1995. The next surgery I had to have was in summer of 2013. So we had been married 14 years by then. We got married in 99, had three kids, bought a house, living our life, doing our jobs, whatever. And then In August of 2013, I had to have emergency surgery because of complications of some of this hydrocephalus stuff. And bam, out of nowhere, she's in a waiting room all by herself while I'm in surgery and calling her friends, going, I don't know what to do. What do we. What now? You know, so, yeah, it can be a little scary. She didn't really have a lot of warning.
[00:16:21] Speaker A: Wow. And, and support. Did she have any support? End up in the waiting room to.
[00:16:26] Speaker B: Some, you know, she did have, you know, you know how it is when you, when you say, well, if you need anything, let me know. You know, everybody says that, right? If you're.
[00:16:36] Speaker A: We usually don't call them on it.
[00:16:37] Speaker B: Yeah, right. Well, she started calling him on it and she started calling people and she called and called, called and. And found one person that said, where are you? I'm on my way.
Her name's Pauline, and we still get together with her every week. We love Pauline. She's amazing. And she said. That's what she said. Catherine called her and she said, I'm on my way. Where are you? What hospital are you at? And so she just sat with her and that was it, you know?
[00:17:04] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:17:04] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:17:05] Speaker A: So obviously it came out okay. And so tell me, like, what, what you started doing professionally around, you know, when you. Did you. Did you go off to college after you got back from going?
[00:17:19] Speaker B: I started to go to College, right out of high school, I went to one semester, and then I went traveled for a year, and that year literally turned my brain inside out and. Yeah, gave me so many amazing ideas of what I could do. And so I. I went to school for a couple more years after that, but I just. It just wasn't me, man. I didn't know what to do. Yeah, I was like, I'm out. I'm out of here. And I. You know, we got married and we. And we. We got the job and did the thing, you know, and for a long time, I got laid off a lot. Like, I was the guy that got laid off from everything. So I skipped around. You name it, I've done it for the last. You know, But I did find something that I absolutely loved in 2011.
And for between 11 and 23, I did. I was a private investigator, process server, and armed security.
[00:18:06] Speaker A: Whoa.
[00:18:07] Speaker B: Y.
Talk about a fun thing, man. Yeah. Yeah, that's a blast. I didn't wear, what, short shorts? And I didn't wear Hawaiian shorts shirts, and I didn't drive a Ferrari. So that whole image.
Get that out of your head.
[00:18:21] Speaker A: So that vision is gone.
[00:18:23] Speaker B: It's more of an art form of staying awake and. And not.
[00:18:28] Speaker A: I envision you crashing in the car, drinking coffee, eating a piece. Right, exactly.
[00:18:35] Speaker B: Pulling hairs out of your leg to stay awake. You know, it's like, come on.
[00:18:40] Speaker A: So what made you go into the private detective stuff?
[00:18:43] Speaker B: You know, it was just. It was a thing where somebody that went to church. We went to the same church. His name is Eric. He's amazing.
[00:18:49] Speaker A: He.
[00:18:50] Speaker B: He got the contract with his security company to do it was. There was a minor league ballpark in town here, and then he got the security contract for it. So he said, I happen to be working security at the church at the time. He reached out to the guy that handled that. He said, who can I tap, you know, for maybe working with me at the ballpark? And so that's how I met him. That's how I got started. And then he's like, you know what, Jeff? You. You could probably do pretty good as a PI Let's. Let's train you in that. You'd be pretty good serving. Let's train you in that. And so, you know, 12 years later, I'm doing all that stuff. And in the midst of that, I had, you know, four brain surgeries and two others that he saw me through through all of that. And so I shout out to Eric Rupp, baby, he rough and security. He. He saw me through all of that and was above and beyond. So I never wanted to do any other work. I was a contractor, but I could have worked with. For other people, but I didn't want to work with anybody else because he treated. He just, he took care of us. It was amazing. So.
[00:19:54] Speaker A: And you up to 2023, you said, right?
[00:19:56] Speaker B: All the way up to 2023. I.
I was in that. In my. My last brain surgery was in 2021, and that one basically ended that career, that brain surgery in 2021. I kept. I wasn't able to do it anymore. I kept thinking, man, I can push through. I can push through. And I kept cutting back hours, cutting back hours. I ended up having to just leave.
[00:20:17] Speaker A: I couldn't do it. Okay, all right. Yeah. So. So with. With challenges like that come silver linings about a silver lining that came out of you having not to be able to be. Do the PI and security work anymore.
[00:20:34] Speaker B: Silver lining of that was about six months before that in March or that was a few months before that in January or February of. Of 2023. I had met somebody named Julianne Meyer, who was the network president of the channel on E360TV. And I was at a conference, and I met her, was introduced to her, and she said, well, somebody said, you got to talk to Julianne, Julianne, you got to hear this guy's story. Because, you know, apparently somebody that said seven brain surgeries, that's unique. So people like to hear that. So. Right. For me, it's normal life, but for some people, apparently, that's a unique thing. And so.
So she's like, yeah, tell me your story. And we talked a little bit, and we. We had a few more calls after that, and we, we said. She said, you. You probably do good to have a TV show. We could. Let's see what we could do. You know, our channel would love that. We would love some content like that. So we ended up planning it and figuring out a launch day and everything. So April 4th of 2023, we launched our TV show, our first TV show called Invisible Condition. And we wanted it to be very.
We wanted it to be broad. It could have done the Hydrocephalus Hour, right. I could have just brought my condition into it, you know, because the idea of the show was people living and yet thriving despite some sort of invisible condition. Right. Some sort of medical condition you can't see.
We knew that the Hydrocephalus Hour probably wouldn't last very long. Nobody would want, you know, that gets a little boring. So we opened it up to any invisible condition which there's so many. I mean absolutely everything. So that's, so that's, that's the silver lining. We launched that TV show.
It's been on the air two and a half years now. We've had so many amazing guests. We've got almost 300 episodes out there. It's just, it's been awesome.
[00:22:27] Speaker A: That's wonderful. That's wonderful. What do you have other stuff you're working on in addition to the, to the show or is that your bread and butter?
[00:22:35] Speaker B: That is our bread and butter, but we also have a non profit called Hydro with Hope, which, which is geared towards people with the condition that I was born with hydrocephalus. So we, we actually published a journal called My Hydro Warrior Story to be able to help people navigate that condition. Like a world craziness.
[00:22:56] Speaker A: Is that a workbook written?
[00:22:58] Speaker B: It's a, it's like a fill in the blank journal. Yeah, it's like a. So when you get it, you, you start at the beginning and you just kind of chronicle your experience of the surgery and the hospital and your medical records and stuff. And it's very helpful when you go back to those follow ups to have something in writing.
[00:23:14] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:23:14] Speaker B: And then we like to, you know, talk to families and kind of talk them off the ledge, you know, of holy smokes, I gotta have.
What kind of surgery are we in for now? You know.
[00:23:23] Speaker A: Right.
[00:23:25] Speaker B: And, and then we're, and so that, that we launched in 2022. The show. We launched in 2023.
I mean, my wife and I both are, are speakers. We love to travel the country just talking about our story, talking about our experience of what's.
What this means. You talk about a shift in, in things. You know, it's like there was a huge shift. You know, I, we thought our life was on this trajectory, especially my wife, you know, she was, you know, she's got a family, three kids, loving husband, house, all the things. And then all of a sudden surgery.
[00:23:59] Speaker A: Yep. And things so tremendously. Yeah.
[00:24:01] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:24:02] Speaker A: So now, so tell me about the, the speaking. Is it you go in person across the country?
[00:24:11] Speaker B: I do a lot. I depends. I've done some virtual stuff. I've done like, I've spoken at conferences, you know, remotely, you know, virtually.
We've gone in person to places. We can do both. I mean, I have no problem doing both. I love going in, we love to travel. So in person. Awesome.
[00:24:28] Speaker A: Helps.
[00:24:29] Speaker B: Yeah.
But I, you know, I love just telling our story. You know, she, she tells her side. I Tell my side, you know, and I'm the. The one that's gone through it all, but she's gone through it too. You know, she's the caregiver. She's the, you know, the one that. That had to watch me go through all that and figure out what to do at home while I'm there. So.
[00:24:51] Speaker A: Well, you know, how did that. How did that. The later surgery impact the kids? Because that was their first recollection of dad having to go through it. So how them.
[00:25:01] Speaker B: So on our show Invisible Condition, we. I actually had my. My wife and my oldest daughter Elizabeth on the show to talk about that because I wanted to hear her story because she was about. Let's see, she was born in 2003, so 2013. So she was 10. 10, you know, 10 or 11 when. When that first emergency surgery, and then six months later, two brain surgeries. And then, you know, and so she. She has a very vivid memory of me, you know, writhing on the floor and being carted off in an ambulance and being in the hospital for three weeks. And, I mean, it was crazy. And so she got to tell that story on the show. And, and, and with my wife, you know, they kind of bantered back and forth about it, and, you know, so they, you know, in all of our kids, all through all those surgeries, you know, my youngest is the greatest, is the latest example. You know, with the last surgery, I had some crazy side effects from that, too. And I would end up just on the floor sometimes. You know, the world would just go from here to here, and it would just. The world would turn on its side beyond the floor. And I, you know, and she was so sweet. She would just bring a pillow. You know, I'd be in the middle of the kitchen floor. She'd just be like, hey, dad, how you doing? We're. We're going to go eat dinner. Come join us when you can. Here's a pillow. You know, Here you go. Love you. You know, and. And just carry on like it wasn't a catastrophe. It wasn't a big deal.
[00:26:27] Speaker A: Right.
[00:26:28] Speaker B: It was. There was just compassion. You know, they learned how to. How to do that. So it's. It's been pretty cool.
[00:26:34] Speaker A: Wow, that's amazing. Now, you mentioned over 300 episodes on an Invisible Condition.
What are some of the invisible conditions that you've spoken to guests about that we in the audience may not really know much about?
[00:26:48] Speaker B: Man, there's so many.
We have talked about everything from really common stuff like traumatic brain injuries, fibromyalgia, Ms.
lupus, you know, schizophrenia, bipolar, ADHD, chronic fatigue syndrome. I mean, there's. There's a lot of conditions out there that are considered invisible. We've had some very rare things. We had somebody with a rare form of cancer that only affects two out of every million people in the U.S. so there's. Right. Like, you know, there's no research funding going for that. You know, so there's like 500 people in the whole country that has it. You know, I mean, we had somebody talking about survivor's guilt, the effects of narcissistic relationships, moral injury, military sexual trauma. I mean, we've. We've covered a lot of stuff.
[00:27:39] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Not. Not always physical stuff.
[00:27:42] Speaker B: Not always physical, but always invisible. Yeah, it was invisible.
[00:27:46] Speaker A: Yeah. You and I talked about autism, I remember, with my.
[00:27:48] Speaker B: Yes, exactly. Autism. We've had that covered on the show in one variety or another with different combinations of things. Yeah, it's. It's a. It's a thing for sure.
[00:27:59] Speaker A: Jeez.
[00:27:59] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:28:00] Speaker A: Anything we haven't spoken to the audience about, you want to shed light on?
[00:28:05] Speaker B: You know, one big thing that I would love to share. Thank you, by the way, for the opportunity.
[00:28:12] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:28:13] Speaker B: We are just now relaunching something that we had previously, earlier this year, put together. And then other things came up that were more urgent, but.
[00:28:24] Speaker A: Right.
[00:28:24] Speaker B: It's called Star Mastermind. And we are. We, you know, as a TV host, as somebody that is a speaker that loves to. To engage with people on shows and bring out the story, and it's just. It's just a passion of mine. And I. And I see so many people that are. That struggle to. To do well on this type of platform, on a TV platform, on. On a. On a podcast platform, on a speaker stage, on, you know, like, how do you do that and do it well so that you get the best out of it and the audience gets the most out of it and the host gets the most, you know, and so Star Mastermind is the place you want to come to. We're gonna. We. We have. I. We have in. We've learned so much. We've got recommendations on people that you can see to go help you with different things. We've got recommendations on equipment you could use to make it look better, sound better.
[00:29:17] Speaker A: Right.
[00:29:17] Speaker B: You know, you know, how do you. How do you do a TV show or, you know, how do you. How do you be a successful guest?
That's what it is. And so we want to. We want to share that partly to. To elevate, you know, any. Anything we do in the future too, because we, I mean, we, we, this is all stuff that we've helped our guests with over time. And so, but this will help everybody with a podcast, everybody with a TV show, you know, if people can come and learn, let's make everything better, you know.
[00:29:51] Speaker A: Absolutely, absolutely. I love that. Thank you for sharing that.
Well, the audience certainly has captured the essence of Jeff Pearson. They're going to want to get in touch with you, my friend.
So folks that try this email, email address, it'd be invisible
[email protected] want to get in touch with Jeff, Email them there. I'll make sure that's in the, the show notes as well.
All right, so, Jeff, I have two questions to ask you. All right? First one, you're in your happy place, wherever the heck that is, and you're sitting down with 7 to 10 year old Jeff Pearson and you want to give him advice about life. What are you going to tell young Jeff?
[00:30:35] Speaker B: Good question. I'm going to tell Jeff probably something similar to what my parents told him. I think I would tell him, you can do anything you want, man. This is not a limiting thing.
This is a superpower. You can do anything you want. You have no limits. And life does not have to be perfect to be amazed. Amazing. So don't wait for it to be perfect before you do something amazing. So, yeah, I think that would be the perfect thing to tell them. Love it, Jeff.
[00:31:06] Speaker A: All right, switch hats. You're now talking with young entrepreneur, young businessman Jeff Pearson, and you want to give him some business advice. What are you going to tell him?
[00:31:19] Speaker B: There's no such thing as fear, man. You, you, these people you're going to go talk to, these entrepreneurs, these celebrities, these, these, these influencers for your shows, for your, you know, your speaking gigs, they put their pants on just like you do. One leg at a time, man. It's, they, they had their defining moment when they took off too. You know, they, they used to be in your shoes. So look for, look for an opportunity to gain wisdom and learn from them.
[00:31:52] Speaker A: Right, Right.
[00:31:53] Speaker B: Because, because that, they would probably love to impart that wisdom to you if you just ask them, you know, don't be intimidated, don't be scared.
It's not gonna, it's not gonna serve you to, to let fear, you know, in. Just, just be curious, you know, and ask questions and, and don't be afraid to talk to people.
[00:32:14] Speaker A: So love it. Thanks for that advice, Jeff.
[00:32:17] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:32:17] Speaker A: So, Jeff, I want to thank you for coming on. Thank you for coming into my life.
Keep doing what you're doing. You're an amazing human being, my friend, and I'm so grateful to have you in my life.
[00:32:27] Speaker B: Thank you, Drew. You too, man. This has been amazing. And I. I know this is not the last thing we're going to do together. So absolutely thank you for. For the opportunity.
[00:32:35] Speaker A: Absolutely, my friend. Everybody out there, please take care of yourselves.
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