Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign.
[00:00:09] Speaker B: The podcast for those who find themselves immersed in adversity and choose to write their story instead of having others write it for them. I'm Drew Duraney and I'm your host. Today's guest is Scott Raven.
Scott Raven is the founder of Corvus Empowerment Solutions, helping family oriented men create integrated success without sacrifice.
After a successful corporate career, Scott experienced a significant health crisis that forced him to reevaluate his definition of success.
Through this journey, he discovered how to build frameworks that help high achievers integrate career, health, wealth and family, what he calls the four pillars of sustainable success.
As a certified Cliftons strengths coach and strategy architect, Scott has transformed his own adversity into a methodology that helps others reduce overwhelm and create harmony across all domains of life.
His podcast, the Corvus Effect, features conversations about leadership transformation and creating legacy beyond achievement.
While he's not helping clients break through their challenges, Scott can be found enjoying quality time with his wife and two children in Atlanta, Georgia.
Enjoy the show.
Scott, so good to see you.
[00:01:39] Speaker A: Good to see you, Drew. Thanks for having me on.
[00:01:41] Speaker B: Ah, thanks for coming on, my friend. And I always want to thank the, the person who introduced me to my guest. So, Jim Swan, thank you so much for the introduction to Scott Raven.
You're right on target, man. Good, good, good idea to introduce us.
[00:01:55] Speaker A: Good people know good people in this world.
[00:01:57] Speaker B: Absolutely, absolutely, Scott. So why is Scott here? You know, folks, you guys know I always talk about how when we're young, we're taught that life is linear if we do certain things in the order that people tell us, A plus B plus C, D is going to happen, you know, and life is linear until it's not. Inevitably an external circumstances gets in the way of one of those letters and kind of derails us. And that straight path in life is now more circuitous.
And when that happens, we have a choice to make. We either do something about it or we don't. Sometimes we don't even see the adversity and we just go about living. And I truly feel there's three types of men out there. There's man number one, who's got a ton of blind spots, doesn't even notice the adversity, just thinks that this is life, that's the way I have to live it. And he goes through life on autopilot.
And then there's man number two, he has a more heightened self awareness. He sees the adversity, yet he's the victim.
Everybody and everything is to blame. Life's doing it to Me, I have no control over this. I can't do anything. I'm just going to live life the way it is.
And when he gets on his deathbed, he's got a ton of regrets because he knew he could have done something. And then there's man number three. That's Scott Raven. Man number three sees the adversity, has even a more heightened self awareness, and says, I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired. This adversity is not a barrier. It's an opportunity to do something different and become a stronger man in the end.
So, Scott, I'm going to ask you to reach back as far as you need to for that defining moment, that moment that it was either the tap on the shoulder, the whisper in the ear, like I needed the 2x4 upside my head to transition you from man number one or two to. To the man you are now personally, professionally. Love to hear that story, my friend.
[00:03:44] Speaker A: Absolutely. And thank you, Drew, for allowing me to share my story with you and your listening audience.
And in many respects, I've had to go through this metamorphosis multiple times. But the primary one that we'll focus on was when I had my significant health scare on back in 2017.
That will lay out the punchline first, which was on December 21, 2017, I was admitted to the hospital with severe chest pains, head pains, back pains, and a blood pressure of 180 over 110.
And had to have a number of tests done on me to see if there was anything eminently fatal going on with my body. And. And also having to take a look at my son as I was waiting for the results, thinking to myself, if this was the last moment that I had with him, what did I want him to hear from me?
So that's the punchline, right?
[00:04:53] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:04:54] Speaker A: Now let's go back and say, how did we get there?
[00:04:57] Speaker C: Right.
[00:04:58] Speaker A: So I live in Atlanta. I came down to Atlanta in 2005 and I did what is affectionately known as the Atlanta rotation.
[00:05:09] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:05:09] Speaker A: I. Bigger companies, bigger titles, bigger pay, bigger responsibility, effectively chasing the best brass ring. And I was doing that quite well up until the beginning of 2017.
In 2017, for the company that I was working with, they were going through a huge multi billion dollar merger.
And that as with any big merger, you're looking for efficiencies.
And I was not only blind to this, but I was also blind to what was changing in the work environment around me. And ultimately, what had made me successful in the past was not going to be as valued in the future, but I continue to go on my merry way. I had a poor relationship with my boss at that point who, albeit that he tried to communicate this to me, really didn't care. He was more in self preservation mode, for lack of better term.
[00:06:23] Speaker C: Right.
[00:06:24] Speaker A: And ultimately came to a head when we got to June of, of that year and he and I are sitting down for my mid year performance evaluation.
And honestly, I was in phase number two at that point of your journey.
[00:06:44] Speaker C: Right.
[00:06:44] Speaker A: Where pretty much anything that he said, I wasn't listening.
I wasn't listening because in my mind I was just thinking, this is your fault, this is your fault, this is your fault.
[00:06:57] Speaker C: Right.
[00:06:58] Speaker A: And there's a good amount where I think that he could have done better, but at the same time, I was not leading myself very well. I did not have great self awareness nor self accountability during that time.
So ultimately, when the company decided to go through a reduction in force and my position was eliminated in that reduction in force in August.
[00:07:27] Speaker C: Right.
[00:07:28] Speaker A: That at first I found it very cathartic. I found it cathartic because I was able to get away from this guy in this environment and whatnot.
[00:07:37] Speaker C: Right.
[00:07:39] Speaker A: But then about six weeks afterwards that the reality of that job had become such a large part of my identity.
[00:07:53] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:07:53] Speaker A: And now who the hell am I?
[00:07:55] Speaker B: Yeah, that's.
[00:07:56] Speaker A: What am I, you know?
[00:07:59] Speaker B: Yeah, we do that.
[00:08:00] Speaker A: And I had this thought that I would go out, be independent. I'm smart, I'm likable, gosh darn it, I can get this done. But I had none of the tools, skill set, mindset that I had today.
[00:08:14] Speaker C: Right.
[00:08:15] Speaker A: And intrinsically, I was in a very deep, depressed state. State.
And that I worsened this by alcoholism to ultimately land me where I ended up in the hospital with that severe hypertension.
[00:08:32] Speaker B: Right.
[00:08:33] Speaker A: So at that point to your journey map, right. You could do one of two things about it.
[00:08:39] Speaker C: Right.
[00:08:40] Speaker A: You can either say, woe is me, this is never going to get any better.
[00:08:46] Speaker C: Right.
[00:08:47] Speaker A: Or you can address it.
[00:08:50] Speaker B: Right.
[00:08:51] Speaker A: And when I was going through the period of addressing it, which took me a good six months.
[00:08:58] Speaker C: Right.
[00:08:58] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:08:59] Speaker A: There were significant metaphysical things that were going on in my body at that time because the root cause of all of this was acute anxiety disorder.
[00:09:12] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:09:13] Speaker A: And I remember that in April of 2018 that I was getting prepped to run the Boston Marathon on behalf of the Dana Farber Marathon Organization charity that I had run for previously and loved being a part of it. In terms of their dedication to defying cancer, My mom lost her battle with cancer and eight days before the marathon, we start getting the weather reports that it is going to be miserable on marathon Monday.
[00:09:51] Speaker B: Right.
[00:09:53] Speaker A: And my body, every single part of my body goes into pins and needles at the same time.
And I don't know why.
[00:10:03] Speaker B: Right.
[00:10:04] Speaker A: And I'm freaking out. I'm talking to my doctors, you know, they're doing blood pressure, blood pressures are coming back normal. They're like, you're fine, you're fine, you're fine. Like, no, I'm not fine.
[00:10:12] Speaker C: Right.
[00:10:13] Speaker A: To all the rest of the world, I'm looking absolutely normal.
[00:10:16] Speaker B: Right.
[00:10:17] Speaker A: And I'm not feeling fine.
[00:10:18] Speaker C: Right.
[00:10:20] Speaker A: But to your point, in terms of do you want to be the victim or not?
[00:10:24] Speaker C: Right.
[00:10:25] Speaker A: I'm like, no, I'm going to go ahead, I'm going to gut this out.
[00:10:29] Speaker C: Right.
[00:10:29] Speaker A: And of course, the weather report was right.
40 degree temps, 30 mile per hour winds, headwind, sleeting, rain the entire time.
[00:10:39] Speaker C: Right.
[00:10:40] Speaker A: It was a fun little trip between Hopkins and Boston.
[00:10:43] Speaker C: Right.
[00:10:44] Speaker A: But I look at that as a point of perseverance that I was able to get through that under those conditions.
[00:10:52] Speaker B: So you did run the race, the marathon.
[00:10:54] Speaker A: I did, I did, I did. I did run the race.
[00:10:56] Speaker C: Right.
[00:10:56] Speaker A: I actually ran pretty well for my standards.
[00:10:58] Speaker C: Right.
[00:11:00] Speaker A: And it was that perseverance that allowed me to attack with the help of the medical professionals, that root cause of the acute anxiety.
And by the time that June rolled around, because acute anxiety, if you, if you don't know how it manifests in the body, Right. It's just that your nervous system is completely out of whack and you need to adjust it and those things take time. I didn't get my nervous system ready until June of 2018.
[00:11:35] Speaker C: Right.
[00:11:35] Speaker A: Okay. And after the hospital, yeah, it took, it took a good two months after the marathon.
[00:11:40] Speaker B: Right.
[00:11:42] Speaker A: But finally my body was feeling good.
[00:11:44] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:11:44] Speaker A: And with that I was able to reenter the workforce and I had completed my first arc in your three strip, three step journey process.
[00:11:57] Speaker B: Excuse me.
[00:11:58] Speaker C: Right.
[00:11:59] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:12:00] Speaker A: Now I say, and I want to make sure that I keep with your, you know, relative episode length, Right. That I've done this journey multiple times since.
[00:12:12] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:12:13] Speaker A: That position got eliminated in reduction in force. Merger related.
Nothing I could do in that one. Wrong place, wrong time.
[00:12:21] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:12:21] Speaker A: But chose not to be the victim and chose to take a bet on myself and become a franchisee, owner of an emerging martial arts franchise.
[00:12:31] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:12:32] Speaker A: That.
[00:12:32] Speaker B: Wow.
[00:12:33] Speaker A: That, that, that did not work out either. So I had to exit that in 2022.
[00:12:40] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:12:41] Speaker A: And at first, you know, you go through the. Where were you Blind. Where were you? Where?
[00:12:47] Speaker C: Right.
[00:12:48] Speaker A: I certainly had a victim mentality in terms of there was Covid, there was poor support from the franchisor, et cetera.
[00:12:55] Speaker C: Right.
[00:12:56] Speaker A: But once again, I did the work in the later part of 2022 to really do some hard self reflection in terms of what could I have done better? Where could I have held myself more accountable? Where was I not aware of what I was trying to do that was not keeping me in my flow state?
And ultimately all of these lessons now manifest themselves into what I do today to bring all of these lessons learned to others who are in their spot of bother and that they're looking to get to their happy flow state, professionally and personally. So I hope that answers the question.
[00:13:44] Speaker B: It does, absolutely does. And yeah, many men, most. I'll say most men consider it a weakness to look for help with. With anxiety.
And. And again, many of us search for the. For the fix of the symptom rather than the root cause.
[00:14:06] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:14:06] Speaker B: It takes a lot of work to go deep down and find out that root cause. And. And it's something that men need to face as a strength because not addressing it, I believe, is the weaker part of it.
[00:14:18] Speaker A: But I agree, I agree. It's, you know, if you went to the doctor, right. And you knew something was significantly wrong with you, but you told the doctor, look, I don't really care about that. Just give me the pill in order to help me feel good the next day.
[00:14:36] Speaker C: Right.
[00:14:37] Speaker A: Okay, fine, you've triaged it. You probably will feel better.
[00:14:41] Speaker C: Right.
[00:14:42] Speaker A: But you're not really addressing it. And just like any drug, Right. That benefit's gonna wear off over time.
[00:14:49] Speaker B: Very true.
[00:14:49] Speaker A: And you're just gonna feel worse and worse as you go on.
[00:14:53] Speaker B: Yeah, no, it's so true. I mean, I mean, it's like the hangover will wear off and the issue will still be there.
[00:14:58] Speaker A: That is correct.
[00:14:59] Speaker B: That is correct. So I admire you for addressing root causes.
So going into entrepreneurship, the venture to be your own boss, how was that transition after you walked away from the franchise?
[00:15:15] Speaker A: So after I walked away from the franchise, you have to understand, why did I choose that franchise in the first place?
[00:15:22] Speaker C: Right.
[00:15:23] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:15:23] Speaker A: Part of it was that my son was going through the martial arts and loving it. And what I saw in that was the ability to have not only the potential for financial impact for my family, but also community impact in terms of serving others. Something that, quite frankly, I had never felt with any of the positions that I had in a corporate role. Right, right.
So the aims were legit, and they're still the same aims that I have today.
The vehicle was wrong.
[00:15:58] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:15:59] Speaker A: And the vehicle was wrong. Because what I needed to be skilled and proficient at was not aligned with my strengths. I'm cliftonstrength certified.
And that I know through what I've learned about the psychology in terms of where you're stronger and where you're less dominant and how that manifests itself in terms of the activities that you take on and where you are in flow. That I was not in flow when I was going through that period of my life. I was getting through serely on willpower and determination. And willpower has a shelf life. Have you used it too often you burn out?
[00:16:43] Speaker B: Absolutely. Yep. I felt that. Burnout. Burnout's real. Burnout's real. And if you don't notice it's coming when it hits.
Yeah, it hits in all parts of your body. And you know, it's interesting, there's a stat that I often share that 85 of physical ailments are due to unaddressed internal stress.
[00:17:03] Speaker A: That's correct.
[00:17:04] Speaker B: Happens to most we men.
[00:17:07] Speaker A: That is correct. And you know, really related. 85% of the activity that you, that goes on in your brain is subconscious. You don't think about it. It's not control. It's your brain, you know, doing its primal things to keep you alive.
[00:17:21] Speaker C: Right.
[00:17:21] Speaker A: And so little wonder, right, that your brain is trying to give you the wakeup calls in terms of. This isn't right. This isn't right. You're in danger, Will Robinson.
[00:17:31] Speaker B: Yep, yep. No, it's, it's true. It's true. And you know, the fact that, you know, men are 50% of the population, 80% of the suicide scares me because we men don't address the internal causes. And, and it's time to do it. You know, it's time to. That we men become more multi dimensional rather than that one dimensional man who's strong and can, can, you know, just do it and dance. Yes.
[00:17:58] Speaker A: But I think a lot of respect that we are the byproducts of that messaging that we have received.
[00:18:07] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:18:07] Speaker A: Man up, embrace the suck. Absolutely no one wants to hear about your problems. Deal with it.
[00:18:13] Speaker C: Right.
[00:18:14] Speaker A: And it's a little wonder, depending on which study that you take a look at that between one in six and one in three adult men admit they have no true friends in their life.
[00:18:25] Speaker B: You know, that's the scary part. And you do look at that.
Men can have acquaintances or many friends more horizontally. You know, you don't dig deep. Women tend to have that those vertical friends where they dig deep, they grow those roots, and they really can. Can really address the, the root causes. But men, you know, yeah, we don't get deep, man. We'll talk about the sports and cars and everything on the surface.
And I don't know, I mean, I, I believe more men now are admitting, at least to themselves, that they need stronger friendships. So they don't know how to do it. We really have never been taught how to do it, you know?
[00:19:06] Speaker A: Well, they've never been taught how to do it because that is not what they received as the playbook for success.
[00:19:13] Speaker C: Right.
[00:19:14] Speaker A: The playbook for success that they have received is go out, have a great career, marry the beautiful woman, have kids, pick up, fence, etc.
[00:19:25] Speaker C: Right.
[00:19:29] Speaker A: For lack of better word, that's a very possessional and transactional view in terms of what success is versus something which is relational and built on deep connection.
[00:19:44] Speaker B: Yeah, 100%. 100%. And I think that's, that's where we need to do a lot of the work.
Men like you and I need to address the, the differences between transactional and relational. And I think you have to have that balance.
Yes. You need the, the financial stability and all that.
[00:20:03] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:20:03] Speaker B: It's not the end all or be all. Because I know many men who are wealthy and they feel empty inside.
[00:20:09] Speaker A: That is correct.
[00:20:10] Speaker B: You know?
[00:20:10] Speaker A: That is correct. That's correct. And ultimately, at the end of the day, and this is why, as part of the work that I do, I talk about what is your integrated life that brings you harmony. One of the things that you'll hear me say is I do not believe in balance. Balance is a myth. And the moment that you have balance in your life, wait one second. You're completely out of bounds.
[00:20:34] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:20:35] Speaker A: And that has nothing to do with you. That has everything to do with the world around you that you can't control.
What you can control is the way you integrate your thoughts, behaviors, actions across all the roles that you play in life to bring yourself harmony.
[00:20:50] Speaker B: Absolutely. Yeah. The work life balance is a myth.
We 24 hours in a day, let's say we're awake, 16 of them.
There's gray areas, you know, And I know so many people who have strengths at home and they forget about bringing those strengths to work versa. And blurring that line, I think is important because we can take some strengths of us as human beings and bring it to the workforce and shine. I think a lot of men, though, are afraid to be themselves.
[00:21:21] Speaker A: Well, you talk about blind spots, Right. In terms of those Things that other people see that you don't see.
Its opposite is what's called masks.
[00:21:35] Speaker B: Right.
[00:21:35] Speaker A: Things, you know, that other people don't know.
[00:21:39] Speaker B: Right.
[00:21:40] Speaker A: And that many, many people go into their arenas, work, home, whatever, with masks on.
[00:21:49] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:21:50] Speaker A: Because they don't want their co workers to see, hey, I'm a little bit scared or nervous. I'm a little bit unsure in terms of what I'm asking you to do is going to be successful.
[00:22:01] Speaker B: Right.
[00:22:01] Speaker A: They are scared when they get home in terms of, hey, I'm a little bit worried about the fact that I've been at the office for so long that I've got to explain to my wife that we're missing date night for the third time in a row.
[00:22:14] Speaker C: Right?
[00:22:15] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it's, it's true, it's true. I think it's a lot has to do with what are our priorities and are our priorities set by ourselves or do we allow the external world set our priorities? And more often than not, men don't sit down with themselves and start to think, think, am I living my life the way I want to or am I just doing it, living this life other people are telling me to do?
[00:22:37] Speaker A: Which ultimately a lot of that is the life that other people have told you to do.
[00:22:42] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:22:43] Speaker A: Whether that be your parents, particularly your father, whether that be the education system that has its roots in the industrial revolution. So it has its, you know, basis in terms of let's produce capable workers to improve the productivity of the workforce.
[00:23:01] Speaker C: Right.
[00:23:02] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:23:02] Speaker A: And to be quite honest, I don't think a lot of men have a clear understanding of their desired identity.
[00:23:13] Speaker B: I don't either.
[00:23:14] Speaker A: And because they don't have that clear understanding, they can't answer this simple question.
What are the five core values that are your non negotiables in life? Give me five words that are your non negotiables in life.
[00:23:31] Speaker B: That's a very good point. That's a very good point. Thinking. Yeah, yeah. And it has taken me this long to at least get to three or four. But you're right, we usually negotiate things that are important to us. Not realizing we're doing it, that's a lot to do with that. People pleasing that, you know, I've been guilty of.
So how in your teachings, in your coaching, how do you assist men or empower men in determining what those five non negotiables are? What's your approach?
[00:24:02] Speaker A: So, yeah, a lot of it. And you know, just to be clear for your audience. Right. My target is traditionally men who have Their own businesses, small to mid size, typically between 10 to 20 employees, and that this business that they've built, that was supposed to provide them freedom has now become a prison for them, that they feel like everything depends on them, they can't get away, they are working 70 hour weeks, they're missing family engagements, etc.
[00:24:38] Speaker C: Right.
[00:24:39] Speaker A: And at the end of the day it becomes a case that they have not allowed themselves to step away and be able to let others help them drive the progression of that which is important to them and becomes the albatross around their neck.
[00:25:04] Speaker B: Yes, absolutely. Absolutely.
[00:25:06] Speaker A: So when we talk about what those core values are.
[00:25:09] Speaker C: Right.
[00:25:10] Speaker A: A lot of it gets rooted, just like you're having this conversation in terms of the path that we have been on, our individual history, our direct experiences which make us unique and how that shapes us over time.
Particularly during your first 14 years of life, the first seven years of life, you're basically a sponge. You're absorbing everything that is coming at you and just trying to, you know, bring it in.
[00:25:48] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:25:49] Speaker A: From age 7 to 8, 14, you're doing a lot of testing. And this is why when you talk about, you know, teenage years and whatnot, or at least tween years, right. That you're pushing back on some ideals because ultimately you are trying to say, of everything that I've absorbed in life, what am I going to keep, what am I going to reject, what am I going to create my own, etc.
[00:26:13] Speaker C: Right.
[00:26:14] Speaker A: And by the time you get to about age 14, 90% of your identity is set.
90% of your core values are set. Now how you manifest that self in terms of purpose, action, job, etc.
[00:26:27] Speaker C: Right.
[00:26:28] Speaker A: That'll change over time. Right. With the seasons. But 90% of that core is set by age 14.
[00:26:35] Speaker B: Now when you say set, the awareness is very important because many people that age are not aware that it, that it set. I think it's less than 1% challenge themselves to say, is this the life I'm living because I want to, or somebody else's. Now you can challenge it, but for the most part we allow it to be set because a lack of awareness.
[00:27:00] Speaker A: We do, we do. But also as we go forward from that age.
[00:27:06] Speaker C: Right.
[00:27:07] Speaker A: That that is going to get adjusted based on what environment you are.
[00:27:17] Speaker C: Right.
[00:27:18] Speaker A: So how that identity and how those core values play themselves out in high school is going to be different than how it plays itself out in college. It's going to be different than how it plays itself in young adulthood is going to be different. It's going to be different in terms of initial years of your marriage or the initial years of being a parent etc.
[00:27:36] Speaker C: Right.
[00:27:38] Speaker A: But while the environments change over time, the core root of what you believe.
[00:27:47] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:27:48] Speaker A: Stays pretty consistent. Right now it gets augmented as you go, but it stays pretty consistent.
[00:27:56] Speaker B: Yeah. And then, and then it'll stay consistent and then the determination of whether it's negotiable or not will waver depending on how confident you feel in your own skin, how you're developing that self identity. Is that self identity developed from your inner core? Are you allowing others to shape that self identity which you mentioned with the business, with your job and your significant other?
[00:28:19] Speaker A: That's correct.
[00:28:20] Speaker B: Many men look to the outside to determine their worth.
[00:28:23] Speaker A: That's correct. And you know a lot of it.
[00:28:25] Speaker C: Right.
[00:28:26] Speaker A: You know you say external validators of worth.
[00:28:30] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:28:30] Speaker A: Your job, your compensation, the number of people that you have reporting up to you.
[00:28:38] Speaker C: Right.
[00:28:38] Speaker A: All of the external awards and accolades and you know, whatever memberships to country club, whatever all that is. Right.
[00:28:46] Speaker B: You know what it even.
[00:28:47] Speaker A: Those are all, those are all external validators. Right.
[00:28:50] Speaker B: Social media, how many likes did your post get?
[00:28:52] Speaker A: Who cares?
[00:28:53] Speaker B: Cares.
[00:28:54] Speaker A: You know, now, now, sometime now I will say this. Yeah, some external validators are important. Let's take money for example.
[00:29:03] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:29:04] Speaker A: Money is an external validator. Somebody is providing you a currency based on what you've done.
[00:29:11] Speaker C: Right?
[00:29:12] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:29:12] Speaker A: And obviously that helps facilitate things in your life. So there are external validators that are important.
[00:29:19] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:29:21] Speaker A: Not over internal validators.
[00:29:25] Speaker B: Absolutely. So that, that's the difference. Yes, there are important external validations, but not more, they're not more important than the internal validations.
[00:29:33] Speaker A: Correct.
[00:29:34] Speaker B: And it's finding that alignment in the two that, that you know, it's not really a balance. It's that alignment.
[00:29:40] Speaker A: Correct.
[00:29:41] Speaker B: We're looking for.
You know, I would, I would say that the audience certainly, certainly has captured the essence of, of Scott Raven. I know I have. And guys, get in touch with Scott. Go to LinkedIn, you can DM him or go to his website at Corvus Solutions Co c o r v u s Solutions co. That'll go in the show notes. Now I like to promote Scott here because he is looking to really work with and empower fellow family oriented men who feel that they are lacking that control in their life. They, they're working hard and something just doesn't feel right. And they, and they are, are for a different. They're looking for that freedom. Do you want to elaborate a little bit on your ideal, let's say client.
[00:30:29] Speaker A: Or I con I call this concept the concept of empower.
And that I believe that there are four key verticals that are associated with one's legacy. Your career or profession, your holistic health. Not just physical, holistic, your wealth and your connection.
And that those pillars have multiple phases.
They have how that relates to yourself, how that relates to your tribe. So that's your family, your close friends, etc, and then how that relates to your community.
Okay. What I see with a lot of men is they put an over focus, particularly on career and wealth, at the expense of holistic health and connection.
And to what we've talked about here, that they put an over focus on the external validation. How does the community of their employer judge their worth?
[00:31:43] Speaker B: Right.
[00:31:44] Speaker A: Versus how they judge themselves?
So when we talk about empower and we talk about the journey that I lead business leaders and owners on, it starts with yourself.
It starts with, are you effectively leading yourself? Do you have the proper self awareness, self belief and self accountability such that you are progressing yourself in the right manner regardless of anything else that's going on?
And then when you have that proper foundation, are you giving those benefits first to your tribe before you give it to your community?
Are you the type of person who says, this will benefit my wife and family far before it benefits the people that I'm working for? And that's the way that you think about things, right?
[00:32:41] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:32:42] Speaker A: Once you have that alignment in terms of the way that you approach it and the way that you put yourself into flow by what you are naturally good at, then you can have the ability to prioritize your life effectively. You can have the ability to delegate and schedule those things which don't require your immediate attention. You have the ability to integrate multiple roles into your life as opposed to letting one role be dominant at the expense of everything else. And at the end of the day, when you get to that state of empowerment and you look at the legacy that you're able to build.
[00:33:28] Speaker B: Mm.
[00:33:29] Speaker A: You're able to uplift others professionally because you're able to send the elevator back down.
You're able to personify holistic health across multiple dimensions. You're able to channel your wealth into the causes, the organizations, the people that you care about, and you're able to be an inspiration to others around you in your community.
That, to me, is the target.
[00:33:50] Speaker B: There you go. There you go. And it's doable. It's doable, folks. We have more control over our life than we give ourselves credit for.
All right, so I have two final questions for you, Scott.
First one, put yourself in your happy place. You're sitting down with that 7 to 10 year old Scott. Right, right. The sponge. You want to give him advice about life. What are you going to tell him, knowing what you know now?
[00:34:18] Speaker A: Ah, just don't take yourself too seriously.
I, I mean, I mean, you know, when I think about age 7 to age 14 and how Bent out of shape I got over the littlest things and that I have a lot of emotional growing to do.
[00:34:37] Speaker C: Right.
[00:34:37] Speaker A: Just don't take yourself too seriously and don't feel like you have to be stellar in everything.
[00:34:49] Speaker C: Right.
[00:34:50] Speaker A: You. Yeah, if I had to do it over again.
[00:34:52] Speaker C: Right.
[00:34:53] Speaker A: As much as I feel very accomplished in terms of how I can use my brain to bring wisdom to the world, I would hit the gym more, I would have played with friends more, that sort of stuff.
[00:35:05] Speaker B: So I love it. I love it.
All right, switch hats. Now you're sitting down with young businessman, young entrepreneur Scott Raven. You want to give him advice about business. What are you going to tell him?
[00:35:19] Speaker A: You can't go far without others.
And that as much as you have learned as an individual, there's a lot that you don't know.
And unless you want to learn things the hard way, seek out those people who are your trusted advisors to help guide you.
[00:35:48] Speaker B: Love that. Absolutely, yeah. Surround yourself with the right people and go to them often. I love that. Scott, Scott, I want to thank you for coming on, coming into my pleasure again. Jim Swan, thank you so much for introducing us. Scott, Keep doing what you're doing. Take care of yourself. I love how you, you have that inner focus and you can then share and shine on others.
Let's help those men in our community. So thanks again for being who you are, Scott.
[00:36:14] Speaker A: My pleasure.
[00:36:15] Speaker B: Everybody out there, please take care of yourselves.
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