[00:00:06] Speaker A: Welcome to From Caving in to Crushing it. The podcast for those who find themselves immersed in adversity and choose to write their story instead of having others write it for them. I'm Drew Durany and I'm your host. Today's guest is C.C. schatz. CeCe Schatz, doyen of relationships. She is an inspirational divorce, dating, relationship building, life coach, author, business leader, public speaker and global Internet TV radio personality. Cece has a unique style of healing from within. Her intuitive skills reach beyond those who are struggling to cope and redefine their lives. Cece has relatability as she has the been there, done that approach to life, helping thousands and connecting Going Solo singles through relationship loss, divorce, transition into dating, dating, travel, singles in business and having simply having fun in her hometown of Tampa Bay and globally. She is also the owner managing director of www. News streaming network.com home of the new streaming TV going Bold Media, going Solo Media and WGSN DB goingsolo network radio, podcasts and TV reaching over 6 million viewers in the comfort of their homes. CC has been developed New Streaming network as a true distribution hub for Internet TV podcasts and radio talk hosts. She has developed a cutting edge opportunity to unite live streaming through the Internet with her tiered market, syndication and affiliations. CECE's award award nominated going solo with CECE aka going solo after Divorce Show Going Solo Life After Divorce Show Date the Right one Show Biz Buzz igniting business success and good readers authors Corner shows.
Come listen and connect with this awesome network www.new streaming network.com or www. Goingsolonetwork.com enjoy the show. Cece. It's good to see you.
[00:02:31] Speaker B: Oh, it's great to see you.
[00:02:33] Speaker A: Well, thank you so much for coming on and you know, I always like to thank the people who introduce and introduce us and I did forget to. To look to find out. I forget. I know that it was on. I was on a podcast. What was her name?
[00:02:52] Speaker B: Oh my gosh. No, I don't remember. Was it Rosalyn?
[00:02:55] Speaker A: Yeah, it was Rosalind. It was Rosalyn. It was Rosalyn. So I was on Rosalind Sadaka's her. Her podcast, which is on your station, which we'll get to what you do professionally. But we want to get to know cece as a person, so. So I am thankful for Rosalind for having me on her show so I could get a chance to meet you. So thank you, Rosalynn. So Cece, you know, when, when we're young, we're taught that life is linear right where we're told by our family, and it's not malicious that if we do certain things in a particular order, one, you know, A plus B plus C then D is going to happen, everything's going to be fine. You know, it's not malicious. They're trying to protect us. They hope for us that life will be a straight line and everything will be fine. Inevitably, though, it's not the case where it's linear. Life is linear until it's not. And something or some things get in our way externally that cause us to live more of a circuitous route in life.
And along the way there's so many defining moments that pop up that where we have an opportunity to change our life and sometimes we don't even notice it. Sometimes we notice it and we decide not to. And sometimes we notice it and we do something about it. And that's why I say that there's three types of humans out there. There's, and in your case, there's three types of women out there.
You can have woman number one who lives through life in complete utter blind spots and doesn't notice anything, has really a low self awareness and just goes through life the way it's been handed to her and that's it. Then there's woman number two who does notice that she's going through a lot of adversity and rather than feel that she controls a lot of her behavior, she feel like she's a victim and she blames others and says this is just the way life is, it's doing it to me. I'm just going to continue doing what I'm doing.
I bring woman number three on this show and I believe you are woman number three. Woman number three is the woman who's gone through adversity and she's at a point in her life where she's got a lot more heightened self awareness and says, you know what? This adversity is not a barrier. This is an opportunity to, to create a better life for myself. I'm going to do something different and become a stronger person. And I believe that's who you are. So with that being said, if you could reach back as far as you need to to find that defining moment, whether it was the tap on the shoulder or the whisper in the ear or what I needed the 2 by 4 upside the head at age 50 to say, hey, there's a better way to live. I'm tired of this. I'm going to do something different, something that's molded you to be the woman you are now. Cece.
[00:05:32] Speaker B: Well, gosh, I've had so many, you know, I've had relationships that haven't worked out. And then I realized, you know, there's got to be something more to life. I've always thought there has to be something more to life. And I remember, you know, being a young girl, my grandmother always saying, you're. You're made for good things. There's something really special about you. You're going to be all this. I'm thinking, well, yeah, she's my grandmother. Of course she's going to be saying these things, you know, like, all right. But, you know, but then I kind.
[00:05:58] Speaker A: Of.
[00:05:58] Speaker B: That. I kind of believed that. I started believing that as I was moving forward in my life. And so when, you know, things that would happen that weren't really good in my life, then I would stop for a minute and say, wait a minute. I am made for something better. I am supposed to be doing something better. This isn't my gift. And so I just continued on with that. And so after my last, you know, relationship, my. With my. My ex was pretty rocky, was pretty terrible, and said some horrible things to me. I mean, the last words he said to me was, I was only good enough to do his dirty laundry. And I said, you know what?
You're going to watch. Watch me. And so I left him. That day I made the decision. That was the day I was leaving. And so as I was moving through that, going through my divorce and all, that was really horrible. It was long. It was draining. Very. I think now, knowing, looking back, I know it was very abusive. A lot of things that we're going through. But I had a reading done, right? And so I had this reading and. And Karen and anybody interested in having a reading with her, I'd be happy to share information. Rosenberg. She was Karen Rosenberg. And I was in. This was right towards the end of my divorce. I didn't know where my life was going to go and everything she told me I was going to be on radio, I was going to be on tv, I was going to be on all these things. And I'm thinking to myself, oh, she's a quack. This is not going to work. There's no way this is going to happen. And I will tell you that everything this woman has said to me has come true.
[00:07:35] Speaker A: Unbelievable. Okay?
[00:07:37] Speaker B: National television, everything.
So my. So my thing is to tell everyone out there that's listening is when those doors open, stop climbing through the windows. You know, I climb through that window. Make my life harder. Complete yourself and know that there's something better for you out there. If you've got that gut instinct feeling that you have something that you need to move forward to do, thrive, do it. Don't be afraid. Don't. Don't let fear hold you back.
[00:08:07] Speaker A: No, absolutely. So thank you for sharing that. So, so you're working through the divorce. You had the reading now. Now, Karen could have just said that and you could have just said, yeah, yeah, okay, and then not done anything to get to that point. What types of behaviors and actions did you take after that reading that enabled you to manifest what you're doing right now?
[00:08:33] Speaker B: Well, I was in a divorce support group, which I absolutely love. And I suggest everyone to get in some sort of group that you can really, I think, you know, like, sink yourself into, really resonate with. And so I was in this divorce support group. It really helped me a great deal. And then I, the organizer of the group decided she no longer wanted to do it. And with a friend of mine, we took over the group. And then my friend met someone and she didn't want to do it and so I took it over. Over. I still have the group today and. But that was a great thing for me because that led me to not only start working on myself, but also help others. Because when you connect with other people, going through what you, you've been through and what you're going through, you know, like minded, it really does help help you to push you through to the other side. And so I went on a talk show with my friend who had victim to survivors. I talked about domestic violence within a relationship because I felt that I experienced this in my past. And then also a lot of people coming through the divorce support group were also experiencing that. And when I left that, that interview, the owners of the studio were outside the door and they said, we'll give you a show if you'll come on.
[00:09:55] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:09:56] Speaker B: That's how I started. I started on life improvement Radio, Internet, it's still there today. And I started there with just radio. Wow. My first show I thought I was going to pass out, I made was awful. And they had to take a break and make me like calm down because I was so excited. But it just, it went from there, from there. I went to tv and so now I have my own, my own network and it's called New Streaming Network. And we talk about, you know, all kinds of subjects and you know, all talk shows are all geared towards helping.
And we started the going solo, you know, thing. Now we're going into going bold and we're brought it into the new streaming.
[00:10:41] Speaker A: But good for you. So. All right, well, you know what? So. So there was. There's part of that where, where you saw the opportunity and took it on. And then you managed to be. Because you were able to take that on and didn't, you know, didn't ignore it. Other stuff started to happen. What if the owners of that station were not standing outside?
Right.
[00:11:04] Speaker B: Yeah. I have no idea. I probably would have continued with the divorce support stuff and time. I was, you know, I was in the middle of writing a, you know, writing a book. I wrote a chapter in a collaborative book and. Okay, so I was trying to open the doors and be, you know, be conscious of new experiences. Sure. That was one of the things I found in my marriages, is that I was very held back, very confined. And I realized that I think us, as human beings, we have so much to give and so much to experience that sometimes we don't allow ourselves to do that. So at that time in my life, I was saying, you know what? I'm gonna just go with it. If something pops up, I'm gonna just, you know, and my grandmother always said, U turns were made for me, so I could always do a U turn if I need to double back again if things weren't quite right, you know, experience it and go with it.
[00:12:03] Speaker A: I love that. I love that U turns were made for you. We can all do U turns. Right. There's no such thing as a dead end. Turn around and start over.
So you became stronger when someone says something to you, like what your ex husband said. You know, some people when they think domestic violence is always physical, but the verbal abuse can be as devastating as the physical abuse. So for you to build that confidence and keep that confidence has been a testament to you. So I congratulate you for that.
Absolutely. And I'm sure you help others feel confident too, because you've. You've learned what the best way to. The best way to speak to people is to. Is to be kind. Right. Kindness, you know, can trump anything.
So tell me more about the station, how you're growing it and how you're affording opportunity for others who may need to. Who have a voice and they want to share their message.
[00:13:01] Speaker B: Well, you know, I realized that, you know, when I was doing my show, and I love the life improvement, but I wasn't really getting any marketing. I was having to do all the marketing myself. And so I started getting out there doing. And that was just simply a podcast, right. Just the audio and on radio only. And so I started doing other things, getting out there. And the more I started doing that, the more I realized, well, there's other people that are probably struggling with that too. So. And they're doing a lot of my friends that were doing this type of work. They were also doing full time jobs. So they're just doing their podcast or whatever part time. Right. And so I started thinking, well, if I'm going to market myself, why don't I just, you know, market my friends too and let's, let's gather up. And so Rosalyn was one of the ones, Rosalind Sadaka, I called her and I said, listen, this is what I'm thinking about doing and what do you think? And she said, go for it, you know, she'll be a part of it. So she was one of my very first people. And so I started in radio and moved into podcasting. Podcasting is simply an audio that we send out to other platforms and then we brought it into the TV arena. And I have been blessed to have friends along the way that have helped me do everything. I mean, I had a gentleman, you know, Chuck Bryant, who helped me set up the radio station. He's got a radio station himself. You know, I've had people that helped me with the TV stuff. And so everybody, it's really like a joint effort. But the station now today is, as I said, it's new streaming. New streaming network. We're all Internet based. We are a TV podcast and a radio station.
[00:14:42] Speaker A: Right.
[00:14:43] Speaker B: WGSNDB going solo network. WGSNDB is our call letter. So we are, we are on Roku last minute. Last year we closed out at over 6 million.
[00:14:56] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:14:56] Speaker B: Our Roku station. Beautiful app on new, new streaming tv. So download our app also. We just started Roku Aud. So we're on audio now. That's something new for us. And we've got, you know, like I think about 18 to 20 shows that we're doing. We're trying to bring on more. Anybody that's got a podcast who wants to be on TV or anything like that radio, let me know and I'll be happy to help you do it. We're very economical because my goal is to make it economical for people to do it.
[00:15:30] Speaker A: Sure.
[00:15:31] Speaker B: Got a dream or a wish to be able to or have a story, a journey to share. I don't want them to not be able to, to do that. So we're making it very economical for people to come on board if you already have your own show, your podcast and you're doing it on a particular network, you can keep doing that and we'll happy to bring your stuff on and distribute it into ours. We've got about 59 different platforms and we've got, you know, a tremendous amount of listeners now that are staying with us. So we started with the going solo arena. Now we're trying to do self improvement, self help, and do some other things too. So we've got, you know, attorney that asks Jason Weiss show. We've got, you know, a lot of different shows on that are being a little bit different. So financial shows, things like that that we're looking for. So any idea anybody has, we want to hear about it.
[00:16:24] Speaker A: That's great. Absolutely. Yeah. And actually, you know, folks, you certainly are capturing right now the essence of cece, and we're going to continue to talk on her. But you can reach out to her, to cece@going solo networkmail.com and, and also all social media platforms. If you do have a show and an idea, definitely talk to cece. She's going to be very, very, very helpful. And I love your philosophy, too, because there are a lot of people with ideas, they don't know where to turn. And when they turn to the wrong person who just wants money aid prices you out. But then you lose your voice. And with you, people can still have their voice. And like you said, you make it economical so we can make it happen. So thank you for offering that absolute. Absolutely.
Anything else going on in your life that you want to share with the audience?
[00:17:15] Speaker B: I'm still doing the going solo stuff. So I have the divorce, you know, I still have my divorce group. I still have. You can find on our platform Friends, My Friends Connect and there's some groups on there that you can join. I have a travel group where we travel and have fun solo travelers. And so that's been doing really well and just really trying to have fun and live life. And. And I'll tell you a funny story. When I was my mother, my mother, I got in trouble at school, right? And so I come home and my mother said, your teacher says, you talk all the time. You gotta quit talking.
[00:17:50] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:17:51] Speaker B: What. What are you gonna do in life if all you do is talk? And here I am. Contact.
[00:17:56] Speaker A: There you go. That's what I'm gonna do, Mom. Oh, that's right. You know, it is. That's a, it's a common story what you just said, because I have my middle guy, he's talk a lot and got in trouble in school for talking. And now the shame of it is he doesn't talk as much as he used to because, you know, a lot of times these leaders in our lives don't realize how they hold us back. Our education system is a big industry that does hold us back. Puts a lot of limits on us. Don't do this, don't do that.
And it takes the strong willed person as he or she gets older to realize that we were born without limitations. It's been society that's been placing the limitations on us. And we can control and remove those limitations when we realize the powers and within. Within us. So the power is certainly within you and I. And I love that you ever reach back to that teacher and say, hey, look where I am now.
[00:18:59] Speaker B: Well, I. Yeah, actually, I think I have. Yeah. A lot of my teachers that we're. I'm a little older now, so some of them are starting to pass, but.
[00:19:07] Speaker A: Yeah, but.
[00:19:08] Speaker B: Yeah, but I have. There was one high school teacher that was very special and my psychology teacher.
[00:19:13] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:19:13] Speaker B: And he always said, you need to be a therapist or something, because I couldn't. I would never go down the straight line with the question. I always had to come around and try to solve it from a different angle.
[00:19:23] Speaker A: But yeah, there you go. There you go. So all those, all those things, I mean, that was a nice thing that, that that person said, but all the things that they told us when we were younger, that our weaknesses end up being stre strengths as we become older and, and. And you're utilizing all those strengths now, which I'm proud of you. That's a. Those are good stories. Yeah, we do have some good stories from our, from our upbringing that kind of mold us to who we are now.
You know, I. There's, you know, I want to talk more about.
Geez, you know, with, with your divorce that the defining moment, like is when your ex said what he said were. And I know the answer is probably yes. There were certain things throughout your marriage where you. Maybe not as impactful that made you make that decision. I'm going. But that were there that you didn't notice or that you noticed and maybe swept under the carpet, because I know I did.
[00:20:24] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah, definitely. There was. There were definitely things there and, and you know, and we're good friends today, so I don't want to, you know, bash. And we're. We're excellent parents, I think, to our. So we were very, very good parents and beautiful. I have a lot of respect for him. And without him, I don't think he meant to do the things that he did to me, he just didn't realize what he was doing.
But because he did those things, I am here today. So I'm thankful for where I am. I'm sure. I'm grateful for the person that I'm evolving and where I'm moving to. So. But, yeah, but through. In our marriage, I remember a lot of different things that I didn't probably tackle. I probably let slide a little bit, you know, and, you know, and I also noticed that he. We were married 18 years, so. Or in a relationship for 18 years, and I noticed that we evolved. You know, our relationship evolved. We started to change. He started to change. And I think he kind of lost respect for me because I wasn't the breadwinner in the family. I wasn't the one. Even though I did all the other stuff in between. I did. We had our own business and I helped with that. I did all of that kind of stuff. If he didn't look at me because I didn't receive a paycheck, I didn't have a value.
[00:21:40] Speaker A: Right, right.
[00:21:41] Speaker B: It was a shame to look at that. I think now, probably looking back on it, I think he probably regrets a lot of things that maybe transpire that didn't realize, you know, saying the things that he said. But he moved on into another relationship. And I believe even prior to our demise of ours, and I called it trading up, he went with another woman that, you know, in his mind had more status. This was his religious belief. I was not his. In his same religious belief. So she was, you know, kind of a pillar in her community.
[00:22:19] Speaker A: Right.
[00:22:20] Speaker B: More of a status. A status move for him. So I call that trading up, if anybody ever wants to talk about that.
[00:22:26] Speaker A: Yeah, but.
[00:22:27] Speaker B: And it's not a negative thing. It's just.
[00:22:29] Speaker A: No, it happens.
[00:22:30] Speaker B: I mean, it's. It's hurtful for the parties that are involved.
[00:22:34] Speaker A: Right.
[00:22:34] Speaker B: I think it's a reality.
[00:22:36] Speaker A: No, it is. And you brought up a few good points of many good points. But, you know, people do evolve in a relationship, and if the communication isn't solid and effective, that's how one or both can get lost. Because there are times that one partner doesn't change at all and one evolves, and that's going to do something that. That's going to change, make changes. But if I think it's all about managing and setting and managing expectations and communicating them effectively from the people I've talked to who are in successful marriages, happy marriages, I'll hear about how they communicated well and communicated early and often. And, you know, I always say, I wrote this in my book, that the method of communication my ex wife and I had while we were married was avoidance, which was ineffective communication. It was communication. It was just very ineffective. And it was avoidance. It was silent and, you know, hoping things would just pass. And that's something I've learned. That's very harmful because it builds resentment. And I've now forgiven myself. And her. And communication methods are very, very different from me right now. So we learn.
[00:23:49] Speaker B: Yeah. You know, that's part of the healing, is when you. When you come to terms and you understand the part you played in the demise of the relationship. Relationship. Because I cannot blame my ex for everything. And did he say some terrible things? Sure. Did he do some terrible things? Sure. But did I allow a lot of this stuff to happen? I think I probably did. And so I have to stop and think to myself, you know, what part did I play in it? Where did I. Why didn't I draw the line earlier? Why didn't I, you know, set the boundaries a little bit tighter, those kind of things? And, you know, we. I think we both shifted and didn't make our marriage the priority. That was our priority.
[00:24:27] Speaker A: That happens, too.
[00:24:29] Speaker B: We started doing other things, you know, regards to business and money and, you know, all of that. And so, you know, he became extremely successful, and I believe also along with my help, which is another reason why I thought, well, you know, if I helped him build a business and be successful, why can't I?
[00:24:46] Speaker A: Bingo. Absolutely. Absolutely. Why can't I? That's a great question that we continue. We should continue to ask ourselves, why can't I? And how can I?
And that. And then. Because take the words can't out of our vocabulary, change it to how can I? Because we are capable of doing a lot of things, and. But you have to build that belief inside of you.
This has been a wonderful conversation.
[00:25:15] Speaker B: I'll give you.
I know we're probably gonna have to wrap up, but a key thing is, how can you. Is. I'm really. I've fondly been called the doyen of relationship building. Okay. That is. The key is relationship building.
[00:25:30] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:25:30] Speaker B: I would not be where I am today if it's not for my friends or people that I know that says, hey, you could do it this way. Why don't you try this? Oh, I know how to do this. Well, let me help you do that. It's all about building relationships. So as we're moving through and then we're making that transition in our lives, we remember to continue to build relationships.
[00:25:51] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:25:51] Speaker B: With other people. And I think that is how you can do the. I can. Because you can do it with, with people, right?
[00:25:59] Speaker A: Yeah, we can't do. We. Doing it alone is just a lot more difficult. You do it with other people who have. Share your same vision and philosophy. It does make life a lot easier and fun.
[00:26:13] Speaker B: My whole thing is going solo, but in reality I am not.
[00:26:16] Speaker A: No, you're definitely not. No, you're not. Absolutely. You're more bold, right?
[00:26:21] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:26:21] Speaker A: I love it. I love. So I have a couple questions before we round this out. I got two questions for you. The first one is give you the opportunity. Now you're sitting next to young Cece, 7 to 10 year old Cece, and you want to give her advice about life. What would you tell her?
[00:26:40] Speaker B: Well, I think just don't let any, don't. Just don't let any doors close, you know, allow those, those doors to be open. And you know, when my mom said, oh, you talk too much and you gotta, you know, you're not going to learn anything if you're talk, talking all the time. You gotta listen, you know, those type of things. She's right. I had to listen. I had to listen. I needed to listen more. But the reality is I also needed to have a voice. I needed to go out and shine, do my own thing and be who I am. So don't allow any door to close. Allow yourself to be who you are. And if you're different, that's great. You know, you're special. We're all special in our own way.
[00:27:17] Speaker A: So. Yeah, I love that. I love that. All right, so it's a different hat now you're sitting down with young Cece, the young businesswoman entrepreneur, and you want to give her advice about business. What would you tell her?
[00:27:29] Speaker B: Well, I mean, I think I built this business beginning with not monetizing. From a business standpoint, I realized that I have to monetize because you don't monetize, then people don't believe in the value of what.
[00:27:45] Speaker A: Right, Absolutely.
[00:27:46] Speaker B: So I believe that it's important to learn how to do that, learn how to monetize. So if you have a business and you're doing something, learn how to not only be economical with individuals, but to also learn how, you know, how you need to make a living, you need to keep the lights on, you need to keep things going. And so I think as a businesswoman, I started more building an emotional, you know, emotional network.
[00:28:11] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:28:12] Speaker B: And. Which is great. And it's Wonderful. And I want it to be supportive and being there. But I also know that if I want to keep doing what I love to do.
[00:28:21] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:28:22] Speaker B: I have to learn to monetize it and do it in a way that doesn't break, break, break the bank for people, but they're also feeling like they're contributing along with what we're doing.
[00:28:32] Speaker A: Absolutely love that. Absolutely. Thank you so much. So, you know, I. I want to thank you for not just coming on, but coming into my life. There's a reason why I ended up on. On. On. On Rosalyn's show. And. And you were there, and. And, you know, it's there. There's. There's more to come.
I don't believe in one and done in this, what I call the industry, the entrepreneur industry, the solo, the going solo, going bold. One and dones don't work. 1 and dones don't build solid relationships.
And getting to know each other on a deeper level helps understand people more and give you better, more opportunities to do stuff together. So thanks again for coming on, Cece. I appreciate it.
[00:29:16] Speaker B: Thank you so much. You know, I did some stats beforehand, and I realized that we had over 80% of men that listened to our show. Those.
[00:29:24] Speaker A: Wow, that's unbelievable.
[00:29:26] Speaker B: Yeah. Which is shocking. That's a woman's network.
[00:29:29] Speaker A: But, yeah, no, that's in a great way. Thank you for sharing that piece of data because there are men out there who. Who are looking to grow, and I. I think the need, the want is catching up to the need. The needs always been there for men to grow, and now I think more men want to. It's a matter of letting them be out in public and not be embarrassed by saying they want to grow. Because it's a string. It's a strength to want to grow. Yeah. Alrighty. Well, Cece, thank you again for coming on. I appreciate it.
[00:30:02] Speaker B: Thank you. I appreciate you.
[00:30:03] Speaker A: Ah, thank you. I appreciate you, everybody. Take care of yourselves.
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